Bali keris

henri · 13th October 2011, 05:01 AM

Dear members ,
I just found this keris in Bali during a short trip with an " interesting " blade .
Very difficult even with the blade in hand to know if it is upgraded or original piece .
New hilt , nice aged Bali dress and etching very soon ....

Any opinion/comment regarding dapur and age will be much appreciated.

Thank you for your efforts !

Regards,
Henri

ganjawulung · 13th October 2011, 05:51 PM

The relief at the keris gandhik, could be Airlangga (991 in Bali, and 1049 in Java). He was the only raja (king) of the Kingdom of Kahuripan, which was built out of the rubble of the Kingdom of Medang after the Srivijaya invasion. Picture of a relief below is the deified statue of King Airlangga depicted as Vishnu mounting Garuda, found in Candi (Temple) Belahan, collection of Trowulan Museum, East Java, Indonesia.

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ganjawulung · 13th October 2011, 05:55 PM

But I don't suppose the keris was from the same era of making... But anyhow, it is an interesting keris motif...

henri · 14th October 2011, 09:13 AM

Thank you Ganjawulung for your input .

Cheers

Henri

Rick · 14th October 2011, 03:36 PM

I wonder if this blade had been 'revised' at some point later in its life .

David · 14th October 2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I wonder if this blade had been 'revised' at some point later in its life .

That's my feeling as well Rick...

Rick · 14th October 2011, 05:14 PM

I'm seeing lots of (forging ?) flaws on one side of the blade ...... or are they from rust ??

The piece does not look overly topographic as old Jawa keris often do from repeated washing and re-stain .

Puzzling .

David · 14th October 2011, 07:26 PM

Well, i think it's needs a good cleaning and stain to really be able to properly assess the blade. Dirt and rust can easily hide revisions to blade profile.
As for not having a topographic surface, it is present in Bali dress. I'm not convinced that the blade's origins are Bali, but if it has been kept as a Bali keris over the years it would probably have received the Balinese approach of keeping the blade polished smooth.

13th October 2011, 05:01 AM	#1
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Bali keris Dear members , I just found this keris in Bali during a short trip with an " interesting " blade . Very difficult even with the blade in hand to know if it is upgraded or original piece . New hilt , nice aged Bali dress and etching very soon .... Any opinion/comment regarding dapur and age will be much appreciated. Thank you for your efforts ! Regards, Henri Attached Images

13th October 2011, 05:51 PM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	The relief at the keris gandhik, could be Airlangga (991 in Bali, and 1049 in Java). He was the only raja (king) of the Kingdom of Kahuripan, which was built out of the rubble of the Kingdom of Medang after the Srivijaya invasion. Picture of a relief below is the deified statue of King Airlangga depicted as Vishnu mounting Garuda, found in Candi (Temple) Belahan, collection of Trowulan Museum, East Java, Indonesia. GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

13th October 2011, 05:55 PM	#3
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	But I don't suppose the keris was from the same era of making... But anyhow, it is an interesting keris motif...

14th October 2011, 09:13 AM	#4
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Thank you Ganjawulung for your input . Cheers Henri

14th October 2011, 03:36 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I wonder if this blade had been 'revised' at some point later in its life .

14th October 2011, 05:14 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I'm seeing lots of (forging ?) flaws on one side of the blade ...... or are they from rust ?? The piece does not look overly topographic as old Jawa keris often do from repeated washing and re-stain . Puzzling .

14th October 2011, 07:26 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Well, i think it's needs a good cleaning and stain to really be able to properly assess the blade. Dirt and rust can easily hide revisions to blade profile. As for not having a topographic surface, it is present in Bali dress. I'm not convinced that the blade's origins are Bali, but if it has been kept as a Bali keris over the years it would probably have received the Balinese approach of keeping the blade polished smooth.