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Dear forum friends,
appreciate if you could help identifying tangguh of this javanese keris, 11 curves, rather small compared to standard javanese dragon kris. tq so much in advance. mykeris. Last edited by mykeris; 7th May 2012 at 10:53 AM. |
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Tangguh Kamardikan, without any doubts.
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tq Gustav.BTW, what is karmadikan? I hardly come across with this word 5 years back...its new to me, pls help to explain. tq again.mykeris.
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Hi Mykeris, a keris Kamardikan is a keris that was made in recent times. Regards, Heinz
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Kamardikan means independence (krisses made after 1949) and it is by far the most common tangguh on the market ![]() The hilt is from Banjarmasin (South Borneo). Regards Last edited by Jean; 8th May 2012 at 09:38 AM. |
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Thanks Heinz & Jean....will add that useful info to my mind.
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Thanks Heinz & Jean....will add that useful info to my mind.
![]() Happy viewing Marcokeris... ![]() Last edited by mykeris; 8th May 2012 at 01:09 PM. |
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Possible to see the hilt? Thanks
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Appreciate, if you all could be kind enough to post some real naga gold kerises made before the independence of Indonesia, it would help to strengthen my knowledge of javanese naga kerises. tq in advance.
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From pic the banjar hilt seems old with (probably) two new blue stones. Nice hilt
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![]() You can view some specimens in the kris books (e.g. Keris Jawa) or museums but many of them are from 20th century. Regards |
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I agree with others that yours is contemporary (post Independence and most probably post 1970s) and the Banjarmasin hilt is inappropriate for this form. |
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Agreed with you David
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Perhaps, it looks natural, sorry no reference, through 'feel', it coud be not appropriate & acurate
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I can understand your "feeling" that this is an older kris from the worn-out kinatah and deep carving especially and I was hesitating when I first saw it. However the carving is overdone and does not seem to be finely made in the cavities, and in the kris world I have learned that "too much or too nice is suspect" ![]() Regards |
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It doesnt matter Jean, I feel good knowing that it wasnt made yesterday, at least as David said...1970s...thats really good enough......as acquiring older ones would cost by hundred thousands. Appreciate all comments from you all, I love your Experience!. TQ
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