Bugis keris sajen?

Sajen · 18th June 2024, 05:22 PM

I just got the notification that I've won this very unusual keris sajen by a German auction. It's 17 cm long. I was described as "small African dagger"!

What do you think?

A. G. Maisey · 19th June 2024, 01:39 PM

I think I've never seen anything like it.

Sajen · 19th June 2024, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I think I've never seen anything like it.

So we are already two!

It was cheap and it seems not particularly old. But it seems to be a pamor blade. I am curious to hold it in my hands!

Regards,
Detlef

David · 19th June 2024, 04:15 PM

I don’t know what to think, but AFAIK keris sajen are not part of Bugis culture.

A. G. Maisey · 19th June 2024, 10:41 PM

My understanding also David.

Sajen · 22nd June 2024, 01:06 PM

My understanding as well!

But was is it??

I received it, like I thought it's laminated.

Sajen · 22nd June 2024, 01:08 PM

A rather recent jimat? I don't think it's for those who travel.

A. G. Maisey · 23rd June 2024, 05:34 AM

Laminated, yes, but it could have been made from an old tombak, or a pedang, or maybe even a keris.

Sajen · 23rd June 2024, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Laminated, yes, but it could have been made from an old tombak, or a pedang, or maybe even a keris.

Possible, who knows? By time it will receive a warangan, maybe it will shed some light on it.

A. G. Maisey · 23rd June 2024, 01:35 PM

Maybe.

Sajen · 23rd June 2024, 05:36 PM

It was very cheap so it's equal what it is, I'll keep it as curiosity.

A. G. Maisey · 23rd June 2024, 10:36 PM

Agreed.

Keris study is not all about royal level pieces.

18th June 2024, 05:22 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	Bugis keris sajen? I just got the notification that I've won this very unusual keris sajen by a German auction. It's 17 cm long. I was described as "small African dagger"! What do you think? Attached Images

22nd June 2024, 01:06 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	My understanding as well! But was is it?? I received it, like I thought it's laminated. Attached Images

19th June 2024, 01:39 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	I think I've never seen anything like it.

19th June 2024, 04:15 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	I don’t know what to think, but AFAIK keris sajen are not part of Bugis culture.

19th June 2024, 10:41 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	My understanding also David.

22nd June 2024, 01:08 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	A rather recent jimat? I don't think it's for those who travel.

23rd June 2024, 05:34 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Laminated, yes, but it could have been made from an old tombak, or a pedang, or maybe even a keris.

23rd June 2024, 01:35 PM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Maybe.

23rd June 2024, 05:36 PM	#11
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	It was very cheap so it's equal what it is, I'll keep it as curiosity.

23rd June 2024, 10:36 PM	#12
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Agreed. Keris study is not all about royal level pieces.