indonesian sword

Marcokeris · 10th August 2008, 04:57 PM

I have this sword. The seller told me it comes from Sulawesi but i'm not shure.
From Zonneveld's book it could be comes from Jawa while the hilt seems to be from North Sumatra.
Could some forum friends help me understanding?

VVV · 11th August 2008, 11:20 AM

Nice golok!

I think the seller is correct about (South) Sulawesi.
This kind of golok originates from West Java but is also found on South Sulawesi and sometimes in the nearby Eastern part of Sumatra.
Maybe this golok variation was brought there by Sundanese who settled outside Java?
The style of the hilt looks South Sulawesi, maybe Makassar, to me.

Michael

Marcokeris · 11th August 2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Nice golok!

I think the seller is correct about (South) Sulawesi.
This kind of golok originates from West Java but is also found on South Sulawesi and sometimes in the nearby Eastern part of Sumatra.
Maybe this golok variation was brought there by Sundanese who settled outside Java?
The style of the hilt looks South Sulawesi, maybe Makassar, to me.

Michael

Thanks Michael

sipakatuo · 12th August 2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

I have this sword. The seller told me it comes from Sulawesi but i'm not shure.
From Zonneveld's book it could be comes from Jawa while the hilt seems to be from North Sumatra.
Could some forum friends help me understanding?

It is called Sudanga, origin Makassar, South Sulawesi.

VVV · 12th August 2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sipakatuo

It is called Sudanga, origin Makassar, South Sulawesi.

Thanks,
I didn't know the name and only suspected that it was specifically the Makassar area.
Do you know what Sudanga means?

Michael

sipakatuo · 13th August 2008, 06:22 AM

Sudanga the same as Kelewang/Parang. Makassar and Bugis people called Sudanga or Alameng. Sudanga wear by Chieftain or Panglima Perang/Ade Pitue (Member of tetua adat) therefore it is also a symbol of leadership. Not many people know about the shape of Sudanga/Alameng because of its prestige (produce limited). Congrats!.

Marcokeris · 13th August 2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sipakatuo

Sudanga the same as Kelewang/Parang. Makassar and Bugis people .....

Thanks for the nice explanation.
Two days ago I cleaned the blade (very dirty and full of rust) by immersion in acid citric. Then I used to polish the blade bicarbonate of soda together lime and soap.
To day i have done an experiment: I have used warangan on the blade. The exit IMO is rather good : a kind of pamor sanak has come out.
I think to maintaim the blade in this way

Atlantia · 13th August 2008, 07:51 PM

Lovely looking weapon. Very elegant lines when in its scabbard.

sipakatuo · 14th August 2008, 04:04 PM

Very nice and contrast, original bugis blade as expected!. No need to put warangan on bugis blade, leave it as it is. After you clean the blade (mutih), dry it with soft cloth, leave it dry for few minutes, and smear it with oil.

10th August 2008, 04:57 PM	#1
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	indonesian sword I have this sword. The seller told me it comes from Sulawesi but i'm not shure. From Zonneveld's book it could be comes from Jawa while the hilt seems to be from North Sumatra. Could some forum friends help me understanding? Attached Images

11th August 2008, 11:20 AM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Nice golok! I think the seller is correct about (South) Sulawesi. This kind of golok originates from West Java but is also found on South Sulawesi and sometimes in the nearby Eastern part of Sumatra. Maybe this golok variation was brought there by Sundanese who settled outside Java? The style of the hilt looks South Sulawesi, maybe Makassar, to me. Michael

13th August 2008, 06:22 AM	#6
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Sudanga the same as Kelewang/Parang. Makassar and Bugis people called Sudanga or Alameng. Sudanga wear by Chieftain or Panglima Perang/Ade Pitue (Member of tetua adat) therefore it is also a symbol of leadership. Not many people know about the shape of Sudanga/Alameng because of its prestige (produce limited). Congrats!.

13th August 2008, 07:51 PM	#8
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Lovely looking weapon. Very elegant lines when in its scabbard.

14th August 2008, 04:04 PM	#9
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Very nice and contrast, original bugis blade as expected!. No need to put warangan on bugis blade, leave it as it is. After you clean the blade (mutih), dry it with soft cloth, leave it dry for few minutes, and smear it with oil.