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You may have a look to:
http://www.museumkennis.nl/asp/page....nis&id=i000024 Some important Kerisses from Dutch Musea. Search for KRIS. Ki Jaya |
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Vielen dank, mein freund. Diese krisen sind shone
![]() ![]() I especially like the state kris that is featured also in "Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago" and one other kris that I think is dressed in swaasa that is featured in another book on keris. Again, thank you for the link. I am a little surprised that they use "kris" instead of "keris". ![]() |
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In the dutch musea are very nice keris present.
Battara and Kai, It is very simple that we use the word kris instead of keris. When you speak the word keris quickly and not very clear a dutch (and probably not only a dutch) will hear the word keris as kris. In many old dutch book about keris, keris is written as kris. It is very likely the authors heared the word kris and nobody made a correction. When you ask a dutch about kris a lot of them will refer to the Indonesian dagger. When you ask for keris a lot of us will look at you with incomprehension. |
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Don't seem to see anything when I click on the link. Can't read Dutch too.
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Blu,
When you see the underscores, type 'kris' and click 'Zeok'. You'll get a list of related hits...enjoy... ![]() For translations, I copy and paste the text using Altavista Babel Fish Translations. It's not perfect but can give an outline of what it means... http://world.altavista.com/ Of course there are other such as SDL International Free text translator. http://www.freetranslation.com/ |
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Dear kerislovers,
The webside first mentioned contains photo's and decription from the database from the "rijksmuseum Volkenkunde" The database contains over 900 photo's from kerises( with or without text) look at www.rmv.nl I am sorry for people cannot read Dutch, because you have to make a choice in the Home page Nederlands ===> collectie ===> database ===> zelf zoeken (=selfsearch) : KRIS ( not keris). The Englisch part does not contain all the photo's. For those who cannot read Dutch: Another language ( like German,Indonesian etc) never kept me away from study and learning from photo's ![]() |
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Ki and Martin, thanks for the links. Even not knowing Dutch i managed to stumble my way into both data bases. The first link is interesting due to the fact that many are state keris. It is also interesting to note that except for the so called Wllem IV keris all the others weren't collected until the late 19th or early 20th centuries. It is a shame that the site isn't properly managed so that the photos open up at a higher resolution. I can see some of these are very nice keris, but the pixelation makes it very difficult to make much use of them for any serious study.
I'm afraid i found Martin's link even more dissapointing. These are some really bad photos. Most of what i viewed were fairly common piece, many in rust and disrepair, though i must admit i gave up after a few pages. Even so, most of the photos i saw show very bad angles that barely show the blade, some are actually out of focus and these pics also open up badly pixelated. You would think that major museums would domore professional work. ![]() |
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Hi Kerislovers,
and here some more but important kerisses from the 17. cent. of the National Museum Danmark. http://www.kunstkammer.dk/Ostindiske...eGB.asp?ID=203 http://www.kunstkammer.dk/Ostindiske...eGB.asp?ID=223 http://www.kunstkammer.dk/Ostindiske...eGB.asp?ID=224 Ki Jaya |
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Oh wow! 2 of the kerises in Karsten Jensen's book, and in colour! Plus the beautiful kerises from the Dutch Musea. Its really a lot of eye candy!
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Thanks Ki. Those were certainly nice to see! They are also much better photographs and managed properly so they don't pixelate. Too bad they don't provide close-ups as well. Beautiful old keris, especially that last one.
Kai, i have no problem opening the thumb nails, but these photos weren't sized properly so that when they open they are digitally too big for their size. This causes pixelation of the image with great loss of detail . This is why the images look all grainy or pebbly. They open full screen but the fine details are lost. This is what i mean by poorly managed. I would have hoped that a major museum would have a better grasp of the technology involved in order to present these photos in the most informative manner. |
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