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This night ended a coteng by ebay and I was outbid the third time by a auction in short time!
![]() Here the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...vip=true&rt=nc But want to share the pictures with you. Regards, Detlef |
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Thanks for posting pictures! Very good sheath form. And hilt is good too. Seller says the hilt is sterling silver, but it almost looks brassy, or is that gunk?
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Hello Kei Wee,
think that handle and collars at the sheath are from silver, just tarnished. Seller told me as well that it is silver. ![]() Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 1st May 2012 at 03:43 PM. |
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Well, congratulations to the new owner!
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That is indeed quite an impressive piece and quite a sum of money! It wouldn't take much work to make it beautiful again. Congrats to the winner and sympathy to Detlef...
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[QUOTE=Sajen]This night ended a coteng by ebay and I was outbid the third time by a auction in short time!
![]() this often happens with: Sniping Software (you do not win this quickly ![]() |
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Based on the black discoloration of the hilt I would say, silver / silver cotent. Nice keris btw. but indeed mucho dinero. One month's mortgage ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Best regards, Willem |
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but when you consider that it is one of the most rare keris forms and that every collector want to have one it's still a bargain! ![]() I have seen and handled a lot of keris which have achieved a much higher prize. ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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Nice Coteng
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Hope whoever won it knows which way to turn the hilt
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![]() The dress is indeed a rare form and will no doubt be stunning if it gets restored, but without a blade of good character at this ensembles heart it doesn't hold my interest for long. ![]() |
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I fully agree with you, David. It's solely the blade that counts for me. The fittings may be outstanding, but this blade really doesn't make it for me -- in any event, I wouldn't have bought this piece at any price
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I am sure he will know! ![]() ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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do you remember my tajong? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=tajong The blade was as well in a very very poor condition (post #13) and after a longer bath in lemon acid it was a nice looking blade again, maybe not the high level but good enough (# 31). I don't think that the blade of the coteng will have a remarkable pamor and the blades of coteng are most of the time rather simple (look here: http://kerisarchipelago.150m.com/webpage/Tajong2.htm or here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=coteng or here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=coteng or here in post #9: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=coteng, the only really good blade you can see in the same thread in post #1. What I want to say is, that I believe that the blade from the coteng in question will have a acceptable good looking blade which will not be more worse as the ones you can see in the links in up. And I have really nice blades in my collection which have had a look like this blade in the moment and now this are nice ones after cleaning and etching. So I still believe that the buyer know why he give $ 920 for this coteng. Best regards, Detlef |
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This really becomes a matter of personal preference in collecting. I find that indeed many if not most Coteng keris have rather inferior blades, but those who collect this form seem far more interested in the dress. This also seems to be the case to a lesser extent with tajong, though i have seen some beautiful blades in those ensembles. Simple, yet elegant and well crafted. Still, the emphasis seems to be on the dress with this form as well. I am not debating whether or not this is "correct", simply that it is just not my preference. For me the keris is all about the blade and the dress, though important, is secondary. This is not an argument for debate, simply my personal preference. I certainly agree that the buyer of this Coteng probably felt completely comfortable with his purchase price, but if so it is because he has a different imperative for collecting than i do. ![]() ![]() Last edited by David; 2nd May 2012 at 07:26 PM. |
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Yes, understand your point of view and agree with you that those who collect Coteng are more interest in the dress and hilt.
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Well, whatever floats our boat! ;p
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The discussions remind me of why I went from collecting Javanese/Balinese kerises to Malay/Bugis kerises. Beyond looks, there are also less visible qualities in kerises that can endear them to collectors. Ok, I'm not talking about magic or djinn-inhabited kerises, but tough and functional kerises.
I'll never forget the feeling of holding my first Bugis sepokal blade. It was butt-ugly, but it exuded power and confidence. Sure, anyone else might laugh at its unkempt appearance, but not for very long if they find themselves at the wrong end of it. ;p Some Malay kerises don't look it, but they are tougher than they look. I've been surprised more than a few times by thin blades which are tough as hell and hold a keen edge. I guess there is more to life than looks. ![]() |
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Well Kai Wee, i actually like your sepokal blade and don't find it "butt-ugly" at all. In fact i like the sepokal form in general and agree with you about it toughness and functionality. But i also see both subtlies and quality there that seem sorely missing it the blade in this coteng ensemble.
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