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Old 12th July 2017, 02:58 PM   #1
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Default Small collection of Albacete daggers

I have this small collection of daggers/knifes made at Albacete in Spain. Two of them have cut-outs on their blades, one with a brass inlay. Is anybody here able to tell me what this brass inlay is made for?
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Old 12th July 2017, 03:37 PM   #2
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Hi,
No definitive answer as far as I'm aware, probably just a decorative touch. here's mine for comparison.
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Old 12th July 2017, 03:46 PM   #3
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Thanks for showing your Albacete dagger whose blade is obviously nearly the same then the blade of mine.
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Old 12th July 2017, 04:16 PM   #4
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Judging by the shape of the hilt, they could very well serve as plug-in bayonets.

With respect to the brass inlay, it is purely decorative... I assume.
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Old 12th July 2017, 04:55 PM   #5
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Judging by the shape of the hilt, they could very well serve as plug-in bayonets...
No Sir,

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Old 12th July 2017, 05:14 PM   #6
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... With respect to the brass inlay, it is purely decorative... I assume.
So it seems ...
This part is called lengueta; it has been subject of various legends, like its purpose being to let in air in the wound or for anointing it with poision; but it is no more than an adornment.

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"El hueco en la hoja con lengueta de latón, se ha prestado a muchas leyendas urbanas. "Entrar aire en la herida" "untar veneno en la lengueta". Se trata simple y llanamente de un adorno".
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Old 12th July 2017, 06:06 PM   #7
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Very good information, Fernando, thanks a lot.
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Old 13th July 2017, 02:17 PM   #8
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I agree that these are not suitable for use as plug bayonets. It is surprising how pervasive this misconception is. One supposition about the brass inserts (albeit also unlikely) is that they might in some cases been able to rotate 90 degrees and limit the depth of penetration, as with the cross bar on some hunting swords and spears. However, I have never seen one where the insert could swivel.
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... One supposition about the brass inserts (albeit also unlikely) is that they might in some cases been able to rotate 90 degrees and limit the depth of penetration, as with the cross bar on some hunting swords and spears. However, I have never seen one where the insert could swivel.
That would be another myth, Marcus
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