Sabre 18th - 19th centuries

salsan · 16th March 2018, 01:40 AM

I apologize in advance for my English. I hope for your help and cooperation.
The first topic I open to discuss the saber, which has been in my friend's collection for some time. I suppose that this is a Polish hussar saber of the 18th - 19th centuries. I ask to express my opinion to everyone who can say something about this saber and explain the meaning of the letters on the guard. Best regards to all Alex.

M ELEY · 21st March 2018, 06:12 AM

I noticed the squarish quillon cap, jutting straight out from the guard and was reminded of how similar to French grenadier infantry swords. The sword is badly worn, but the general pattern, rear facing langets, short curved blade and half backed hilt, all of bronze, are similar. I think the key to identifying this item is the straight quillon with cap...I don't know if Polish patterns copied this style?

Victrix · 21st March 2018, 11:32 PM

It looks to me like an Austrian grenadier’s sabre from the second half of the 1760s? The entire sword should be 71.5cm long and the blade @4cm broad.

salsan · 24th March 2018, 05:46 PM

I hope the measurements will add clarity to the identification of the saber. Overall length 70 cm, blade width 32 mm

Victrix · 6th May 2018, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by salsan

I hope the measurements will add clarity to the identification of the saber. Overall length 70 cm, blade width 32 mm

In 1765 the Austrian sabre issued to grenadiers and NCOs had a 58cm blade with brass hilt and knuckle guard. In 1777 the blade length was increased to 67cm. Prima Plana ranks had a lionhead pommel.

16th March 2018, 01:40 AM	#1
salsan Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18	Sabre 18th - 19th centuries I apologize in advance for my English. I hope for your help and cooperation. The first topic I open to discuss the saber, which has been in my friend's collection for some time. I suppose that this is a Polish hussar saber of the 18th - 19th centuries. I ask to express my opinion to everyone who can say something about this saber and explain the meaning of the letters on the guard. Best regards to all Alex. Attached Images

21st March 2018, 06:12 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	I noticed the squarish quillon cap, jutting straight out from the guard and was reminded of how similar to French grenadier infantry swords. The sword is badly worn, but the general pattern, rear facing langets, short curved blade and half backed hilt, all of bronze, are similar. I think the key to identifying this item is the straight quillon with cap...I don't know if Polish patterns copied this style?

21st March 2018, 11:32 PM	#3
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 710	It looks to me like an Austrian grenadier’s sabre from the second half of the 1760s? The entire sword should be 71.5cm long and the blade @4cm broad.

24th March 2018, 05:46 PM	#4
salsan Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18	I hope the measurements will add clarity to the identification of the saber. Overall length 70 cm, blade width 32 mm