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Tim Simmons · 12th May 2007, 05:20 PM

Got this today. 102cm long. I have been admiring it all afternoon with very cold lager and some lovely biltong a local South African chap down the road makes. Rather nice

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Freddy · 12th May 2007, 06:59 PM

I found this one recently at an antique market.

I think it's a Hadendoa dagger. Don't think it's very old, but it's complete with its leather sheath. And............it was cheap at only 5 Euro.

roshan · 20th February 2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Thanks Ron.

Very helpful information on that site. So the Tagbanua people are animists who happened to have lived under the Brunei Sultanate for a few hundred years, as well as enduring Western rule from the Spanish and Americans.

Seems an interesting group. One of the curiosities, at least to me, of language distributions in the Philippines today is that the main language on Palawan is Tagalog. Now Tagalog is the language of the major group on Luzon, but it is a fair distance from Luzon to Palawan, and parts of the Visayas are in between. When I ask locals why Tagalog is spoken on Palawan, they simply say it is part of the Tagalog Region. Anyone have a more specific answer?

Ian.

This is simply due to migration from parts of the Philippines with high population densities to areas with lower ones, resulting in the natives of those regions being reduced to minorities, and eventually, assimilated. This isnt something unique to Palawan. The large island of Mindoro, which lies between Palawan and the Tagalog speaking areas of Luzon has shared the same fate. Much of Mindanao has been turned into a Visayan "lebensraum" and Cebuano is now the lingua franca of much of the region. Similarly, the Ilocanos have spread out from their core Ilocos region and have Ilocanized most of northern Luzon.

Palawan has a lot of native languages, Tagbanwa is not the only one. There is also the Palawan language, as well as other tribal tongues. Interestingly, the Tagbanwa are amongst the few peoples of the Philippines who continue to use native writing systems of Brahmi (Sanskrit alphabet) origin.

I think in a couple of generations, we are going to see a drastic reduction in the number of languages and ethnic groups in the Philippines.

kahnjar1 · 20th February 2008, 07:50 AM

This was subject of earlier thread. Managed to "extract" it from its owner, and it now lives with the rest of my Dha.

CharlesS · 20th February 2008, 04:35 PM

As a lover of cross cultural pieces, I am absolutely in love with this "dha-war".

Very interesting. Do you think it was all "born together", or composite, and if composite, older or younger??

Thanks for sharing.

kahnjar1 · 20th February 2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

As a lover of cross cultural pieces, I am absolutely in love with this "dha-war".

Very interesting. Do you think it was all "born together", or composite, and if composite, older or younger??

Thanks for sharing.

Hi Charles,
Refer previous thread dated 30th January "Help with Identification Please". All discussion re this item is there.
Regards Stuart

ThePepperSkull · 19th May 2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

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Originally Posted by kino

Three more from todays gun show excursion. One in need of dental repair.

hey, he reminds me of mang isko, the drunk that used to hung around nanay pacing's carenderia, LOL...

Personally, that monster hilt reminded me of my Tito Boy. He loves his lambanog.

On another note, I thought I would revive this thread in case anyone wanted to share a new acquisition, but did not want to start a new thread on their newfound piece.

I have a couple of kris coming in that I find particularly simple (but well done) and would not generate enough discussion to warrant separate threads (WWII. separate gangya. both maranao. I love 'em as much as someone can love an inanimate object, but that's basically all that could be said about these pieces to be honest.) That being said, I thought it would be wise for me to post them here once they arrive, since I am still anxious to share them.

Pics when they come in!

Sajen · 19th May 2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

On another note, I thought I would revive this thread in case anyone wanted to share a new acquisition, but did not want to start a new thread on their newfound piece.

That's really funny, just yesterday I read this thread again und thought about to reactivate it again.

I am curious to see your new babys!

Regards,

Detlef

Spunjer · 19th May 2011, 12:41 PM

hahahahaha! everyone has a tito boy, but why is it that there's no tita girl

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Spunjer · 19th May 2011, 12:55 PM

Kamagong pommel with ivory inlays; 6 1/2" long and 2" wide. 16" laminated blade. in comparison with two other junggayans on the bottom pic

CharlesS · 19th May 2011, 01:56 PM

Magnificent Spunjer!...you know one of those is my "dream piece!"

Spunjer · 19th May 2011, 02:05 PM

Note taken, Charles, hehe...

Battara · 20th May 2011, 01:00 AM

Nice pieces. Perdy!

ThePepperSkull · 21st May 2011, 07:36 PM

Very purdy indeed. The Ivory and Gold combination is beautiful.

Maurice · 22nd May 2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

Magnificent Spunjer!...you know one of those is my "dream piece!"

Ron, can you make a note that I want the other 2 that Charles doesn't want? ;-)

Here my latest acquisition to share!

Rg,
Maurice

Montino Bourbon · 22nd May 2011, 01:45 AM

I took a one-week long smithing class and made this. Yes, I have videos of me hammering the red-hot steel.

I was inspired by the 12th century sword “Hocho Masamune". The "yaki-ire", quenching the steel to harden it after applying clay to the blade, came out perfectly, and the hamon is clearly visible.

My friend and colleague Michael Bell of Dragonfly Forge taught the class. I made the sheath and handle, sort of "Shira-saya" style, after I got back.

Bill M · 22nd May 2011, 03:46 AM

One of my dream pieces. Ron has the only one I ever saw that was similar. I very much admire the way he acquired it! Scratch and sniff!!"

This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak. "Unless you are a king." Well-known Moro authority told me. Perhaps both of these were made for kings?

A.alnakkas · 22nd May 2011, 09:59 AM

"This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak"

Not more then other human beings

beautiful pieces all and lovely Craftmanship, Montino.

asomotif · 22nd May 2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill M

This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak. "Unless you are a king."

Weakens your budget, unless you are a king

Very nice piece. Love the structure of the ivory.

Best regards,
Willem

Gavin Nugent · 22nd May 2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Weakens your budget, unless you are a king

Damn right there, my budget is very weak now

My thanks to a quiet member for helping me obtain this example.....hmmmmm gold

Gav

A.alnakkas · 22nd May 2011, 03:44 PM

Amazing ! congrats Gav. Is it wootz?

Gavin Nugent · 23rd May 2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Amazing ! congrats Gav. Is it wootz?

G'day Lofty,

No wootz but a very fine patterened blade. E.Astvatsaturyan shows a small line drawing of the same pattern in the work on Caucasian arms. The steel quality is amazing, extreme gratitude to he who made this available to me.

Gav

Spunjer · 23rd May 2011, 08:25 AM

Wow, that's a beauty, maurice! Love the inlay work!
I think what Bill meant was the belief in old Mindanao, not necessarily Islam in general even at that point in time...

RDGAC · 25th June 2011, 11:28 PM

My latest purchase - and not at all an inexpensive one. EIC lock, locally converted to percussion; silver inlaid barrel with cannon-form muzzle. Good, solid stock. Weighs a fair bit. Woven, multi-strand, hessian rope sling. Bloody beautiful old girl!

chregu · 27th June 2011, 05:34 PM

hello together
These are the latest achievements of the past week.
regards Chregu

ThePepperSkull · 29th April 2012, 11:04 PM

Last acquisition for a while. While biased in my preference towards older Sulu blades, I've found a new respect and admiration for the larger, broader pieces from Mindanao.

I've always wanted a straight Maranao battle piece ever since I saw Ferguson and Bill Marsh's collections of kris a few years ago on another forum. This one's a little more ornate than other ones I have seen, which are usually very spartan in the use of metal fittings and have some sort of rattan wrap or non-laquered jute wrap instead of the black laquered wrap that this one has.

Despite this, it does still seem like a very powerful, no-nonsense Kris.

Got it for what I consider a very reasonable price. Can't wait to handle this in person. If anyone has anything to add, I would be very appreciative. What social standing did the original owner belong to? etc etc.

Sajen · 29th April 2012, 11:41 PM

Nice and complete kris without sheath. Like the patina at the handle. Would guess that it is a good fighter so not from a person of special status.
Do you plan to etch the blade when you have received it?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 30th April 2012, 02:25 AM

I agree nice Maranao piece.

ThePepperSkull · 30th April 2012, 06:45 PM

Thank you, gentlemen. I've always wanted a straight kris and having spoken with forum members Spunjer and harimauhk (among others) about it over the past couple of months, I've learned to really appreciate the broader and heavier Maranao and Maguindanao pieces, especially the more spartan "battle pieces", as they have been dubbed colloquially. Very no-nonsense, very beauiful in its austerity.

I most definitely do plan on etching it, Detlef. I do not have much experience in etching and FeCl is hard to come by in Canada (It used to be easier to get apparently, but by 2008 it became more difficult as chemicals are very strictly regulated), so I am currently practicing on modern blades using vinegar, lemon juice and pineapple juice to see which gets me a better result. After I have confidence in my etching abilities I will move onto genuine pieces like this one.

Sajen · 30th April 2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

I most definitely do plan on etching it, Detlef. I do not have much experience in etching and FeCl is hard to come by in Canada (It used to be easier to get apparently, but by 2008 it became more difficult as chemicals are very strictly regulated), so I am currently practicing on modern blades using vinegar, lemon juice and pineapple juice to see which gets me a better result. After I have confidence in my etching abilities I will move onto genuine pieces like this one.

I use vinegar and have had very good results!

Good luck and regards,

Detlef

12th May 2007, 05:20 PM	#181
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	frugal repast Got this today. 102cm long. I have been admiring it all afternoon with very cold lager and some lovely biltong a local South African chap down the road makes. Rather nice . Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 12th May 2007 at 05:34 PM. Reason: slurred speech

12th May 2007, 06:59 PM	#182
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Cheap, cheap, cheap I found this one recently at an antique market. I think it's a Hadendoa dagger. Don't think it's very old, but it's complete with its leather sheath. And............it was cheap at only 5 Euro.

20th February 2008, 07:50 AM	#184
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	GOT IT!! This was subject of earlier thread. Managed to "extract" it from its owner, and it now lives with the rest of my Dha. Attached Images

19th May 2011, 12:41 PM	#189
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	hahahahaha! everyone has a tito boy, but why is it that there's no tita girl ? Attached Images

22nd May 2011, 01:45 AM	#196
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	not exactly “ethnographic”... I took a one-week long smithing class and made this. Yes, I have videos of me hammering the red-hot steel. I was inspired by the 12th century sword “Hocho Masamune". The "yaki-ire", quenching the steel to harden it after applying clay to the blade, came out perfectly, and the hamon is clearly visible. My friend and colleague Michael Bell of Dragonfly Forge taught the class. I made the sheath and handle, sort of "Shira-saya" style, after I got back. Attached Images

20th February 2008, 04:35 PM	#185
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	As a lover of cross cultural pieces, I am absolutely in love with this "dha-war". Very interesting. Do you think it was all "born together", or composite, and if composite, older or younger?? Thanks for sharing.

19th May 2011, 12:55 PM	#190
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Kamagong pommel with ivory inlays; 6 1/2" long and 2" wide. 16" laminated blade. in comparison with two other junggayans on the bottom pic

19th May 2011, 01:56 PM	#191
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Magnificent Spunjer!...you know one of those is my "dream piece!"

19th May 2011, 02:05 PM	#192
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Note taken, Charles, hehe...

20th May 2011, 01:00 AM	#193
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Nice pieces. Perdy!

21st May 2011, 07:36 PM	#194
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Very purdy indeed. The Ivory and Gold combination is beautiful.

22nd May 2011, 03:46 AM	#197
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	One of my dream pieces. Ron has the only one I ever saw that was similar. I very much admire the way he acquired it! Scratch and sniff!!" This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak. "Unless you are a king." Well-known Moro authority told me. Perhaps both of these were made for kings? Attached Images

22nd May 2011, 09:59 AM	#198
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	"This much gold is very rare. Makes Islamic men weak" Not more then other human beings beautiful pieces all and lovely Craftmanship, Montino. Last edited by A.alnakkas; 22nd May 2011 at 11:50 AM.

22nd May 2011, 03:44 PM	#201
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Amazing ! congrats Gav. Is it wootz?

23rd May 2011, 08:25 AM	#203
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Wow, that's a beauty, maurice! Love the inlay work! I think what Bill meant was the belief in old Mindanao, not necessarily Islam in general even at that point in time...

25th June 2011, 11:28 PM	#204
RDGAC Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: York, UK Posts: 167	My latest purchase - and not at all an inexpensive one. EIC lock, locally converted to percussion; silver inlaid barrel with cannon-form muzzle. Good, solid stock. Weighs a fair bit. Woven, multi-strand, hessian rope sling. Bloody beautiful old girl! Attached Images

27th June 2011, 05:34 PM	#205
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	my new treasures hello together These are the latest achievements of the past week. regards Chregu Attached Images

29th April 2012, 11:04 PM	#206
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Last acquisition for a while. While biased in my preference towards older Sulu blades, I've found a new respect and admiration for the larger, broader pieces from Mindanao. I've always wanted a straight Maranao battle piece ever since I saw Ferguson and Bill Marsh's collections of kris a few years ago on another forum. This one's a little more ornate than other ones I have seen, which are usually very spartan in the use of metal fittings and have some sort of rattan wrap or non-laquered jute wrap instead of the black laquered wrap that this one has. Despite this, it does still seem like a very powerful, no-nonsense Kris. Got it for what I consider a very reasonable price. Can't wait to handle this in person. If anyone has anything to add, I would be very appreciative. What social standing did the original owner belong to? etc etc. Attached Images

29th April 2012, 11:41 PM	#207
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Nice and complete kris without sheath. Like the patina at the handle. Would guess that it is a good fighter so not from a person of special status. Do you plan to etch the blade when you have received it? Regards, Detlef

30th April 2012, 02:25 AM	#208
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	I agree nice Maranao piece.

30th April 2012, 06:45 PM	#209
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Thank you, gentlemen. I've always wanted a straight kris and having spoken with forum members Spunjer and harimauhk (among others) about it over the past couple of months, I've learned to really appreciate the broader and heavier Maranao and Maguindanao pieces, especially the more spartan "battle pieces", as they have been dubbed colloquially. Very no-nonsense, very beauiful in its austerity. I most definitely do plan on etching it, Detlef. I do not have much experience in etching and FeCl is hard to come by in Canada (It used to be easier to get apparently, but by 2008 it became more difficult as chemicals are very strictly regulated), so I am currently practicing on modern blades using vinegar, lemon juice and pineapple juice to see which gets me a better result. After I have confidence in my etching abilities I will move onto genuine pieces like this one.