Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 8th October 2017, 06:44 PM   #151
Rafngard
Member
 
Rafngard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Minneapolis,MN
Posts: 340
Default

Wow!

Absolutely stunning.

Would the Brass inlay have talismanic properties here? Or is this likely just decorative?

Thanks,
Leif
Rafngard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th October 2017, 06:55 PM   #152
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafngard
Wow!

Absolutely stunning.

Would the Brass inlay have talismanic properties here? Or is this likely just decorative?
Hi Leif,

thank you! Frankly said, I can't answer your good question.
But what's funny, I purchased this little beauty from a german website similar like ebay.

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th October 2017, 12:27 PM   #153
F. de Luzon
Member
 
F. de Luzon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 184
Default

A beautiful addition to your impressive collection!

Fernando
F. de Luzon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th October 2017, 03:55 PM   #154
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by F. de Luzon
A beautiful addition to your impressive collection!

Fernando
Thank you Fernando!

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th November 2017, 12:50 AM   #155
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,221
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafngard
Wow!

Absolutely stunning.

Would the Brass inlay have talismanic properties here? Or is this likely just decorative?

Thanks,
Leif
I believe the answer is "yes". Bronze, brass, and copper blades appear to be talismanic, and by extrapolation, their use on blades (along with silver) is used for talismanic purposes. In fact often they appear on blades lnlaid in talismanic forms like animals, the sun, stars, other symbols, and even script.
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2018, 05:23 PM   #156
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Another new addition to the collection, just bought so here a few modified seller pictures.
Attached Images
     
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2018, 07:11 PM   #157
kai
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,254
Thumbs up

Neat - am looking forward to seeing the blade etched, Detlef!
kai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2018, 07:30 PM   #158
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai
Neat - am looking forward to seeing the blade etched, Detlef!
Hello Kai,
thank you! Will need a little bit. I like this early gunongs with inlaid blades. I think it's a late 19th to very early 20th century piece.

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2018, 07:41 PM   #159
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,221
Default

I agree Detlef. I also like walker gunongs andd this one is a good one with great Maranao silver inlay.

Congratulations!
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th March 2018, 08:06 PM   #160
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Battara
I agree Detlef. I also like walker gunongs andd this one is a good one with great Maranao silver inlay.
Thank you Jose for confirming my age guess. What you mean by "walker gunong"?

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th March 2018, 02:13 AM   #161
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,221
Default

I hate auto-correct!

This was a typo. It was supposed to say "earlier" gunongs.

In fact, I love this inlay best because it has truly traditional Maranao okir. Not seen one like it till now.
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th March 2018, 07:58 AM   #162
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,184
Default

thanks, had visions of an 1847 Walker Colt .44 gunong running thru my head.
Attached Images
  
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th March 2018, 07:15 PM   #163
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kronckew
thanks, had visions of an 1847 Walker Colt .44 gunong running thru my head.

Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd March 2018, 03:55 PM   #164
F. de Luzon
Member
 
F. de Luzon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 184
Default

Interesting details on that gunong, Detlef!

Fernando
F. de Luzon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th March 2018, 10:20 AM   #165
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by F. de Luzon
Interesting details on that gunong, Detlef!
Thank you Fernando, wait a little bit, there are hidden some more interesting details!

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th April 2018, 07:01 PM   #166
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

A recent addition, later version around the 1940s but I like this style.
Attached Images
   
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd May 2018, 04:29 AM   #167
Rafngard
Member
 
Rafngard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Minneapolis,MN
Posts: 340
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sajen
A recent addition, later version around the 1940s but I like this style.

Ahh, so you're the one who out bid me. No worries. It left me money to buy something else ;-)

I also like this style. It is a nice one. I really like the grain on the pommel and the okir.

I hope you enjoy it!

Have fun,
Leif
Rafngard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd May 2018, 08:49 PM   #168
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafngard
Ahh, so you're the one who out bid me. No worries. It left me money to buy something else ;-)

I also like this style. It is a nice one. I really like the grain on the pommel and the okir.

I hope you enjoy it!
Thank you Leif,

but for this you've won the very nice Visayan daga!

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th August 2018, 04:09 PM   #169
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Time for a family update picture!
Attached Images
  
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th August 2018, 05:06 PM   #170
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,221
Default

W😳W! Nice collection there Detlef. You are now officially Tito Gunong 2 😃! (Tagalog for Uncle Gunong)
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th August 2018, 05:49 PM   #171
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Thank you Jose!
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th August 2018, 09:17 AM   #172
Robert
EAAF Staff
 
Robert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Centerville, Kansas
Posts: 2,196
Default

Detlef,
What a wonderful collection of gunongs you have been putting together. If ask I would have to say that even though they are all beautiful examples of the pandays art that the third one from the left and the one with the deeply cut blade that is ninth from the right are my favorites ones in this grouping. I am looking forward to seeing many more photos of new pieces as you find and adopt them into this family.


Best,
Robert
Attached Images
 
Robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th August 2018, 12:22 PM   #173
CharlesS
Member
 
CharlesS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Greenville, NC
Posts: 1,857
Default

NICE Collection! You clearly have good taste and have been quite selective in your gunong acquisitions. Lovely pieces!
CharlesS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th August 2018, 07:02 PM   #174
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
If ask I would have to say that even though they are all beautiful examples of the pandays art that the third one from the left and the one with the deeply cut blade that is ninth from the right are my favorites ones in this grouping.
Thank you Robert as well for the work you have done on some of this examples. The two mentioned ones are also my favorites.

Best regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th August 2018, 07:04 PM   #175
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesS
NICE Collection! You clearly have good taste and have been quite selective in your gunong acquisitions. Lovely pieces!
Thank you Charles! Nice compliment!

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th November 2018, 04:34 PM   #176
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

I think that I never have shown the sixth piece from the right in my last family picture, so here you go.
27,5 cm inside scabbard, 27,3 cm without, blade alone 17,8 cm, 213 gram. Age guess 1930s-1940s. Mounts from copper, brass and german silver.
Attached Images
    
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th November 2018, 04:43 PM   #177
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,124
Default

I love the blade on this on Detlef.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th November 2018, 04:57 PM   #178
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David
I love the blade on this on Detlef.
Thank you David, I am as well so I want to show it. The point of the blade is like a needle and the blade very well worked, a dagger for real business.

Regards,
Detlef
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th November 2018, 05:24 PM   #179
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,184
Default

Sajen, that is gorgeous! <3
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th November 2018, 05:34 PM   #180
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,781
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kronckew
Sajen, that is gorgeous! <3
Thank you Wayne,

glad you like it!
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.