Bolo with wide blade and t-grip for identification - Page 3

nosmo king · 24th April 2005, 05:36 PM

Hello everyone,I was noticing the "mystery" native's earrings.They are called batlings and they are made of hornbill.They are only worn by Ilongots that have taken heads.Here is a pic of an Ilongot with a segmented set of batlings.Notice his facial features!!!
Also,one of the Igorot tribes are the Kankana-ey this could be what they meant on that photo.
Here's an interesting link:http://www.geocities.com/sagada_igor...ic_groups.html

Ian · 24th April 2005, 07:13 PM

Nosmo:

I've blown up that picture of the guy with the bandana a few times and I thought that the two pieces of material coming down each side of his head were the two ends of the bandana tied around his forehead. Really hard to make out much detail in our mystery man photo.

Ian.

nosmo king · 24th April 2005, 09:00 PM

Ian: the Ilongot have really long hair and pull it around the front of their ears and tie it behind their heads.This makes their ears stick out.Weird

tom hyle · 24th April 2005, 10:36 PM

Ya know, Ian, I had started leaning toward those being scarf ends myself, but now, seeing those ear rings; the length, curvature, and end sure are similar. The face does bear a resemblance, as well, if one considers that our sword holder does seem to be "making a face" that seems to distort his lips. Thanks, Nosmo.

Eric A · 12th April 2006, 03:23 PM

The photograph is definately of an Ilongot man. The blade and scabbard also look Ilongot, but often the scabbard is decorated with tiny cerated pendants of mother of pearl. There is a drawing in one of the Renato and Michelle Rosaldo books, as well as the Laurence Wilson book "Ilongot life and legends".

tom hyle · 13th March 2011, 02:42 PM

found it! Machete filipina to compare to parang pandat

Ian · 21st January 2017, 06:33 AM

This is an old thread about a mystery machete-like knife with a bifid hilt. They are not common, but they are old enough to be found in Spanish museums that collected them in the 19th C. The knife was eventually identified because the individual holding it in the studio photograph had ear ornaments peculiar to the Ilongot.

Attached to this post is a picture of Ilongot warriors carrying these large knives. The bifurcated ends of the hilts and circular disc guards are clearly visible. That these are Ilongot men is confirmed by the man standing at the right of the picture--the head dress he wears is unique to the Ilongot and is made from a particular hornbill. This head dress can only be worn by a warrior who has taken the head of an enemy. The Ilongot were headhunters until the mid-20th C. when they were finally persuaded by the Philippines Government to stop their headhunting practices.

CCUAL · 21st January 2017, 03:54 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ivory+kampilan

Another example posted by Indianajones.

Ian · 21st January 2017, 05:33 PM

CCUAL:

Thanks for bringing these pics back up. That is probably the best example of this rare knife that I have seen. Remarkably complete and looks as though it comes from the same time period as shown in the picture I just posted above.

The sticker on the scabbard says:

BOLO SWORD
TAGALOG PHILIPPINES

Obviously not a Tagalog knife.

Like Indianajones, I have been looking for one of these for a long time.

Ian

Ian · 21st January 2017, 06:04 PM

Here is a nice picture of the Ilongot headdress made from a hornbill and other materials.

Height: 6.5"
Diameter: 6.5"
Approx. size: Length 19"
Size of Hornbill: Length 7"

Ian

24th April 2005, 05:36 PM	#61
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Hello everyone,I was noticing the "mystery" native's earrings.They are called batlings and they are made of hornbill.They are only worn by Ilongots that have taken heads.Here is a pic of an Ilongot with a segmented set of batlings.Notice his facial features!!! Also,one of the Igorot tribes are the Kankana-ey this could be what they meant on that photo. Here's an interesting link:http://www.geocities.com/sagada_igor...ic_groups.html Attached Images Last edited by nosmo king; 24th April 2005 at 05:47 PM. Reason: left out some info

24th April 2005, 09:00 PM	#63
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Ian: the Ilongot have really long hair and pull it around the front of their ears and tie it behind their heads.This makes their ears stick out.Weird Attached Images

12th April 2006, 03:23 PM	#65
Eric A Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6	Original owner is Ilongot The photograph is definately of an Ilongot man. The blade and scabbard also look Ilongot, but often the scabbard is decorated with tiny cerated pendants of mother of pearl. There is a drawing in one of the Renato and Michelle Rosaldo books, as well as the Laurence Wilson book "Ilongot life and legends".

21st January 2017, 06:33 AM	#67
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	This is an old thread about a mystery machete-like knife with a bifid hilt. They are not common, but they are old enough to be found in Spanish museums that collected them in the 19th C. The knife was eventually identified because the individual holding it in the studio photograph had ear ornaments peculiar to the Ilongot. Attached to this post is a picture of Ilongot warriors carrying these large knives. The bifurcated ends of the hilts and circular disc guards are clearly visible. That these are Ilongot men is confirmed by the man standing at the right of the picture--the head dress he wears is unique to the Ilongot and is made from a particular hornbill. This head dress can only be worn by a warrior who has taken the head of an enemy. The Ilongot were headhunters until the mid-20th C. when they were finally persuaded by the Philippines Government to stop their headhunting practices. Attached Images

21st January 2017, 03:54 PM	#68
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ivory+kampilan Another example posted by Indianajones. Attached Images

24th April 2005, 07:13 PM	#62
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Nosmo: I've blown up that picture of the guy with the bandana a few times and I thought that the two pieces of material coming down each side of his head were the two ends of the bandana tied around his forehead. Really hard to make out much detail in our mystery man photo. Ian.

24th April 2005, 10:36 PM	#64
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Ya know, Ian, I had started leaning toward those being scarf ends myself, but now, seeing those ear rings; the length, curvature, and end sure are similar. The face does bear a resemblance, as well, if one considers that our sword holder does seem to be "making a face" that seems to distort his lips. Thanks, Nosmo.

13th March 2011, 02:42 PM	#66
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	found it! Machete filipina to compare to parang pandat

21st January 2017, 05:33 PM	#69
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	CCUAL: Thanks for bringing these pics back up. That is probably the best example of this rare knife that I have seen. Remarkably complete and looks as though it comes from the same time period as shown in the picture I just posted above. The sticker on the scabbard says: BOLO SWORD TAGALOG PHILIPPINES Obviously not a Tagalog knife. Like Indianajones, I have been looking for one of these for a long time. Ian Last edited by Ian; 21st January 2017 at 06:25 PM.

21st January 2017, 06:04 PM	#70
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Here is a nice picture of the Ilongot headdress made from a hornbill and other materials. Height: 6.5" Diameter: 6.5" Approx. size: Length 19" Size of Hornbill: Length 7" Ian Attached Images