Mid to Late 16th Century Patrons for Paper Cartridges

[Piotr M. Zalewski]

I wonder when, where and how was the paper cartridge inwented. My second question is about Saxon/Landsknecht cartrige box how it heppened that it was not established in others countries, or may be it was?
Can someone explain ?

[Marcus den toom]

My newest addition, a leather combined cartridge holder and powderflask.
Similar to the one posted by Michael (post 60). It is in fine condition with very little loss on the leather or overall structure.
The powderflask was most likely used for the fine meal powder which was inserted into the powderpan.

[midelburgo]

Originally Posted by Piotr M. Zalewski

I wonder when, where and how was the paper cartridge inwented. My second question is about Saxon/Landsknecht cartrige box how it heppened that it was not established in others countries, or may be it was?
Can someone explain ?

Spanish Artillery researcher Jorge Vigon attributes gun paper cartridges directly to Henri II of France. But IIRC, catholics complained of protestants Landsknechts using latin bibles for cartridges at the sack of Rome 1527.

[Triarii]

Does anyone know the purpose of the rim at the base of the patrons? Talking to C17th cavalry reenactors, including one who worked at the Royal Armouries, they hadn't determined if it was functional or just stylistic.