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Rasjid,
Some very impressive examples. Does the first one have a date of 1706? The last one the Donoriko is great too! Thanks for sharing, Erik Quote:
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What an unusual donoriko! The proportions, form and carvings are all quite unique!
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Regarding the style of carving -- creative carving, not too conventional but sometimes too complicated -- did Jaknal make this hilt specially for you? (Jaknal -- one of the best contemporary Maduran ivory carver, died about a month ago in Madura. He was less than 60 years old...) GANJAWULUNG |
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I agree, the donoriko is very thick and big, suitable for big keris.
Yes erikscollectables, It's 1706 but small size. Ganjawulung, I got it (big donoriko) from Jaknal (his personal collection), but I don't think he made this one. It's different carving, compare with the new donoriko, I posted ealier, made by late Jaknal. It's his last piece. regards, rasjid |
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I suppose this is a Donoriko too?. I would like to know, so if would be so kind to can help me, please
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yes it is a Donoriko hilt. But it look not so old to my eyes. Regards, sajen |
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Thanks Sajen,
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So it's allways a bargain! ![]() You'r probably right, maybe not what we call "old" but I'm sure it should be at least 60 years old or more because it's in the Netherlands since that time ..., like a lot of keris and keris handles. I sometimes wonder if there's a country outside of Indonesia where you will be able to find more keris than the Netherlands? Last edited by sjors; 13th July 2009 at 10:07 PM. |
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For a price like this it's of course a bargain. ![]() The Netherlands have indeed a big resource of keris and hilts and nowadays most of the time by better price than in Indonesia. ![]() Regards, sajen |
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But still, thousands of keris population in Jawa, Madura, Bali and Lombok. Old and new products. Yes, I've seen too, some Lombok dealers has dealt with Malaysian collectors too... That's keris life GANJAWULUNG |
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yes, still many good things you can get in Indonesia when look around but the prices climb up a lot! ![]() sajen |
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Unfortunately I have not been to Indonesia yet...now I will wait a few years untill the youngest is 4 or 5 before we go. I do not like buying from photo's to much so almost all pieces I have were bought in Holland. Of course some the items were laready more recently imported by dealers here but most have been overhere sind the end of the '40s of last century...
A group of Madura handles and my favorite Donoriko in ivory and the favorite in wood in close ups. Regards, Erik |
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Here is one of my recent collection. Quite unique Maduran patrem sheath -- with motif of "singa" (lion) and small Maduran patrem handle with "soldier" motif... GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 17th July 2009 at 09:52 AM. |
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More close ups on the Maduran patrem handle...
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our youngest son haven't been one year old when he go to Indonesia first time. It's no problem to travel in Indonesia with children. BTW, nice collection Erik. sajen |
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Wow, very nice patrem keris. Myabe I have to visit Jarkarta by my next visit in Indonesia. It's long time ago that I have been there (1992) but there I buy my first keris handle and by this start my collection! And until now it's one of my favorite keris handles. sajen |
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And this is more keris sheath of my recent collection. A quite unique motif of sheath -- bird-motif. IMHO, it is a Maduran sheath... GANJAWULUNG |
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Dear Ganja, yes, this will be the main reason to visit Jakarta! It will be also nice to see a great collection of a private man over there!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Very interesting and awesome sheat, terima kasih for sharing. Detlef |
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In my opinion are this jurigan sheaths very attractive. You can find some with very fine and unique carvings.
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I find the bird form wrongko fascinating and beautiful .
The lion is nicely done also . |
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A other jurigan sheat.
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Similar type of handle. Small hilt for patrem...
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The complete composition of the hilt, with medium size keris and javanese "sandhang walikat" (informal) type of warangka, made of "mangga hutan" (forest mango tree) wood...
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Complete composition of Maduran hilt and sheath...
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A very nice composition. sajen |
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