Spanish Dirk? - Page 2

fernando · 27th July 2020, 06:00 PM

So true that plug bayonets remained in use well into the XIX century, serving as hunting knives but preserving their original shape, eventually made with the finest materials.
... As may be seen in the uniform of Spanish King Alfonso XIII (1886-1931) gamekeepers, those with apparent ivory grips, and the two luxury examples residing in the Portuguese Ducal Palace of Vila viçosa (Toledo production 1859-1863).

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RobT · 29th July 2020, 06:18 PM

Ian,

I have a dagger just like yours and, like yours, mine is missing the hilt wrap. I have seen a few of these daggers over the years, so I guess that they are popular but I don't ever recall seeing one with the hilt wrap present. Perhaps the sheath for my dagger will help to confirm your surmise of origin or even narrow it down a bit.

Sincerely,
RobT

Ian · 30th July 2020, 12:46 AM

Hi RobT,

Yes, a twin for mine. The scabbard could be from the Philippines, although the belt loop looks more Mexican. On looking back through my records, the sale receipt had a note "Mexican?", and now I'm not so sure it is from the Philippines. In either case, "Spanish Colonial" would fit.

Ian.

Ian · 9th August 2020, 09:38 AM

Another small Filipino dagger (bottom) with this blade profile. I'm confident this one is of an Ilokano style and made either in Northern or Central Luzon.

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shayde78 · 15th October 2020, 07:48 PM

Thanks all - seems 'Spanish Colonial' is a good general point of origin, with Philippines being the most likely specific origin. good sleuthing work, everyone.

27th July 2020, 06:00 PM	#31
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	So true that plug bayonets remained in use well into the XIX century, serving as hunting knives but preserving their original shape, eventually made with the finest materials. ... As may be seen in the uniform of Spanish King Alfonso XIII (1886-1931) gamekeepers, those with apparent ivory grips, and the two luxury examples residing in the Portuguese Ducal Palace of Vila viçosa (Toledo production 1859-1863). . Attached Images

29th July 2020, 06:18 PM	#32
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 489	Sheath May Help Ian, I have a dagger just like yours and, like yours, mine is missing the hilt wrap. I have seen a few of these daggers over the years, so I guess that they are popular but I don't ever recall seeing one with the hilt wrap present. Perhaps the sheath for my dagger will help to confirm your surmise of origin or even narrow it down a bit. Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

9th August 2020, 09:38 AM	#34
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Another small Filipino dagger (bottom) with this blade profile. I'm confident this one is of an Ilokano style and made either in Northern or Central Luzon. . Attached Images

30th July 2020, 12:46 AM	#33
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Hi RobT, Yes, a twin for mine. The scabbard could be from the Philippines, although the belt loop looks more Mexican. On looking back through my records, the sale receipt had a note "Mexican?", and now I'm not so sure it is from the Philippines. In either case, "Spanish Colonial" would fit. Ian.

15th October 2020, 07:48 PM	#35
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Thanks all - seems 'Spanish Colonial' is a good general point of origin, with Philippines being the most likely specific origin. good sleuthing work, everyone.