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My mace finally
Originaly covered with goftary with the wings plated with red copper It looks to me Persian... Very heavy stuff, not like some persian axes very light and decorative... |
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#21. Persia, all steel, head a grooved ball. |
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I think that is part of the problem... It would appear they both have almost identical terms for this weapon... thus they probably both used it ...Stone only mentions one in your picture as possibly Ottoman; he calls Asiatic Turkey. The comparison seems only to be Persian/Indian although I see China mentioned also. The way they get around the description is to throw the lot in... Indo-Persian bozdogan / buzdygan mace (Ottoman or Persian) Here's another.. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 16th July 2017 at 12:43 PM. |
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The similarity has made me change the description from "Ottoman" to "Persian / Ottoman". |
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This morning I was brave enough to take some photos in books...
They are all described as Ottoman maces. |
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Question for Mercenary
Do you have high quality pictures of your photos at the Hermitage? I'm interested by the following picture... |
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I got these 2 maces recently. For size comparison i have placed them near an ottoman axe. What do you think, ottoman or Persian? The shaft is masiff iron. Also i am puzzled about the size of the smaller one. Could this be a mace with such a short shaft? And what is the reason for the flanged ending at the other side?
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Not directly related to the items shown in this thread, but I happened across this video yesterday about medieval Islamic maces and axes that may be of interest to people reading this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kte3-QBSR_8 (I should note that I know nothing about these. Also some of the weights he mentions seem absurdly high but perhaps I'm missing something there.) Last edited by werecow; 7th June 2023 at 05:34 PM. |
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A Turc with a mace.
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