Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10th July 2024, 04:26 PM   #31
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 9,957
Default

Thank you for coming in on this Capn!'
This truly is a great example of how many forms of hilt were used on these heavy blades, which as pointed out in my paper, were actually termed 'machete' in period, and actually even in Mexican regions into modern times(Woodward, 1946).

As you have perfectly noted ,
The espada ancha forms with hanger type hilts (or other as seen here) were intended for use in utilitarian purposes such as brushing trails and other use involving heavy vegetation. Their only use as a weapon was the as same kind of 'weapon of opportunity' in brawls or perhaps attacks by Native American tribes if other weapons not usable, where any number of tool forms might have been used.

For me the fascination with these is that though most are of a basic type hilt form with the expected variations reflecting certain decoration and elements favored by the local artisan producing it. .....the huge numbers of anomalies present exciting challenges in identification.
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th July 2024, 05:12 PM   #32
werecow
Member
 
werecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Leiden, NL
Posts: 500
Default

I thought I'd leave this here as he shows one of the types of swords described in Jim's article with the hanger hilt and the multi-fullered broadsword blade (3:47 onward):

https://youtu.be/Q9qA1p_f9qw?t=227
werecow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th July 2024, 03:24 AM   #33
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 9,957
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by werecow View Post
I thought I'd leave this here as he shows one of the types of swords described in Jim's article with the hanger hilt and the multi-fullered broadsword blade (3:47 onward):

https://youtu.be/Q9qA1p_f9qw?t=227

Thank you so much for responding, and interesting video! Sure is one of the 'espada ancha' types from Northern Mexico into Spanish Southwest, much like the 'Avila' sword shown in my paper . This was c.1831, but likely much earlier origin, with the late18th c. blade.
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.