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A garden variety Misericorde dagger was just kind of narrow stabbing blade with a minimalistic handle. But a rich man could have ordered a " work of art". |
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Hello Ariel,
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For ease of sharpening the blade, a sheepsfoot blade would be perfect or at least a straight edge. This concave edge would need way more effort to keep the blade razor sharp! The heavy hilt will also not help fine cutting tasks. As already mentioned, it's certainly correct though that in such status pieces form does not always strictly follow function (if any). Regards, Kai |
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By the way, I asked the same question on the Russian forum. One of the participants in the topic said that it would be very convenient to peel a pomegranate fruit with such a knife.
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I know a better system; my wife pills them for me with bare hands ... and i devour the seeds
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cheers,
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I guess it could be a table knife just for pomegranates, but it still seems expensive for that with wootz, walrus, and gold inlay. A status piece of some sort. |
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I lean towards this as well, the short, concave side edge lends itself to this function. I can imagine a rich man strolling through his garden and picking a fruit or flower from a tree with this.
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I am now inclined to it being a pen cutter, for a traditional reed pen. That hooked end would be excellent for cutting the nib.... A Koranic scribe is high class enough for that sort of tool.
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Looks like they all use straight blades
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quill cutters are generally straight there is really no need to cut pulling toward oneself (which is instead suggested by de hawkbill shape), in fact the name pen knife is the name left to this day and indicating generally a folding knife of a small size which a blade initially meant to do that, from the function of cutting quills
( the latin for quill is penna where the name from" pen" comes from) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penknife this blade suggests the need to cut pulling towards the cutter or to make a round motion with the cut (as in when you want to do some types of, draft as in putting two pieces of plant one into the other) |
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yes, in many languages feather in Latin (pluma) is the root of the French word for pen, Plume
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Unless we are talking about the 'mechanized' system, with their luxury versions. I know i have approached this in my post #28 ... but never get tired to show this beautiful thing. Sorry guys
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The overall configuration of the blade of a pen knife is largely irrelevant: all it needs is to have a thin and sharp blade and a sharp point to make a slit in the tip of the pen.
In fact, the edge on that knife is either straight or minimally concave. Either, or especially the latter, will be very convenient for the task. Oriental cutlers were artistically more inventive than their European colleagues: witness the fancy blunt side with golden decorations: both are absolutely unnecessary for any cutting function but are very pretty. Reed pen, quill pen,- the principle is the same: they need re-sharpening, i.e. re-newing the tip. As to peeling apples, pomegranates or oranges ( alas, not being grown in Central Asia), that's what servants are for:-) |
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Olufsen noted that the pichoq attached in pairs were often used by the cooks in prominent families.
This is certainly from a person/family of standing to afford such a piece, and perhaps it too was used in the kitchen and is a bird's beak paring knife. Gavin |
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Not for quils but for kamish, the reed or bamboo used for calligraphy.
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Watch how it is regularly done, and the knife blade profile... by an Islamic expert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdE8ihW5qbs As already approached, admiting that Dmitry's example serves the same purpose, implies that the maker was clearly giving wings to his imagination; even assuming he is Asian ... and ergonomics apart. . |
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There are as many ways to sharpen the reed pen ( Oliver, thanks!) than skin the cat:-)))
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