MOST DESIRED OCEANIC WAR CLUBS 1: MARQUESAS - Page 2

VANDOO · 11th February 2014, 07:01 AM

HERE IS ANOTHER MARQUESAN CLUB THAT RECENTLY SOLD. IT IS 121.61CM LONG AND WAS COLLECTED IN THE MARQUESAS CIRC. 1914 TO 1916. IT IS THE DARKER COLORED CLUB WITH ONE PICTURE. THE OTHER IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN THE SAME CLASSIFICATION OF FORM.
THERE IS A PAPER BY CAROL IVORY THAT APPEARED IN 1995 IN THE JOURNAL OF PACIFIC ARTS ASSOCIATION NO. 11 & 12. I DON'T HAVE A COPY AND HAVE NOT READ IT SO CAN'T COMMENT FURTHER.
THE SKETCH IS OF MARQUESAN ISLANDERS PUBLISHED IN 1837

VANDOO · 9th August 2014, 05:47 AM

TWO MORE ITEMS FROM THE MARQUESAS ONE PICTURE OF ONE OF THE OLD LONGER CLUBS. THE THIRD HEAD LOWER AND TO THE CENTER HAS A SORT OF STICK MAN DESIGN WITH ARMS AND LEGS THESE CLUBS USUALLY DON'T SHOW SUCH A COMPLETE FIGURE.
THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS ONE OF THE SMALLER MORE ARTISTIC EXAMPLES BUT DOES SHOW SOME AGE AND WEAR THERE ARE SEVERAL PICTURES SHOWING DETAIL. THE SMALLER CLUB IS 36 INCHES LONG X 7IN. WIDE.

VANDOO · 17th June 2015, 07:46 AM

THE SHORT VERSIONS OF THE U'U CLUBS ARE THOUGHT TO HAVE BECAME THE NORM AT THE END OF THE 19TH. CENTURY. THEY WERE THOUGHT TO HAVE FIRST BEEN CARVED WHEN THE SUPPLY OF THE LONG TRADITIONAL CLUBS RAN OUT. KARL VON DEN STEINEN WROTE IN 1897 THAT NOT A SINGLE OLD EXAMPLE OF THE LONG STYLE OF CLUB WAS ANYMORE IN THE ISLANDS.
#1 THRU #7 A NICELY CARVED EXAMPLE OF MARQUESAN CLUB 45 CM. LONG.
#8. OLDMAN CATALOG MARQUESAN U'U CLUB BUTTS WITH WRAPPED GRIPS.
#9. OLDMAN CATALOG MARQUESAN STAFFS 85.5 TO 57.INCHES LONG, 1 TO 1.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER, AND A SLING.
#10. DRAWING OF U'U CLUB
#11 & # 12 TWO MARQUESAN STILTS BOTH 14 INCHES HIGH.

VANDOO · 5th September 2015, 12:20 AM

#1. THRU #5. A SHORTER U'u CLUB SAID TO BE CIRCA 1940'S, 31 INCHES LONG #6. U'u DESIGN MAT.
#7. THRU #12. 37.5 INCH, U'u SAID TO BE CIRCA 1930 ,HEAVY WOOD WITH PATINA CORRECT FOR THE TYPE OF WOOD. OLD SPLIT TO HEAD ON ONE SIDE.

VANDOO · 5th September 2015, 02:03 AM

#1. 19TH CENTURY MARQUESAS U'u 27.5 INCHES LONG
#2. & #3. U'u 41.5 INCHES LONG, 19TH CENTURY
#4. TEMPLE IN THE MARQUESAS WITH TIKI'S
#5. & #6. MARQUESAS STILTS.

VANDOO · 1st June 2016, 06:39 PM

A FEW MORE MARQUESAS ITEMS
#1. A VERY WELL DONE FIGURE OF A WARRIOR WITH A NICE CLUB IN THE NATIONAL MUSEUM IN WELLINGTON NEW ZEALAND.
#2. A MARQUESAS CLUB IN THE AUCKLAND N. Z. MUSEUM.
#3., #4., & #5. DETAIL OF MARQUESAS CLUBS.

VANDOO · 24th August 2016, 10:45 PM

A FEW MORE PICTURES OF MARQUESAS CLUBS #1 THRU #6 U'U' WAR CLUBS, #7 IS A VERY WELL CARVED MARQUESAS FAN HANDLE.

Royston · 25th August 2016, 12:23 AM

Oldmans catalog listing some clubs for sale.
He appears to have stopped dating the catalogues in June 1908, with number 63. They are still numbered after this.
Assuming that they continued to be monthly then catalogue number 84 from which these were taken should have been February 1910.

I have checked several websites and £18 in 1910 is somewhere between £1400 and £2000 today.

I would gladly pay the latter to have one of these.

Royston

harvg · 8th April 2021, 06:10 PM

Hi All, I usually collect Fijian artefacts, but couldn't pass up the opportunity to acquire an UU club. Any help or opinions as to age/valuation etc, would be greatly appreciated.

harvg

11th February 2014, 07:01 AM	#31
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE IS ANOTHER MARQUESAN CLUB THAT RECENTLY SOLD. IT IS 121.61CM LONG AND WAS COLLECTED IN THE MARQUESAS CIRC. 1914 TO 1916. IT IS THE DARKER COLORED CLUB WITH ONE PICTURE. THE OTHER IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN THE SAME CLASSIFICATION OF FORM. THERE IS A PAPER BY CAROL IVORY THAT APPEARED IN 1995 IN THE JOURNAL OF PACIFIC ARTS ASSOCIATION NO. 11 & 12. I DON'T HAVE A COPY AND HAVE NOT READ IT SO CAN'T COMMENT FURTHER. THE SKETCH IS OF MARQUESAN ISLANDERS PUBLISHED IN 1837 Attached Images

9th August 2014, 05:47 AM	#32
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TWO MORE ITEMS FROM THE MARQUESAS ONE PICTURE OF ONE OF THE OLD LONGER CLUBS. THE THIRD HEAD LOWER AND TO THE CENTER HAS A SORT OF STICK MAN DESIGN WITH ARMS AND LEGS THESE CLUBS USUALLY DON'T SHOW SUCH A COMPLETE FIGURE. THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS ONE OF THE SMALLER MORE ARTISTIC EXAMPLES BUT DOES SHOW SOME AGE AND WEAR THERE ARE SEVERAL PICTURES SHOWING DETAIL. THE SMALLER CLUB IS 36 INCHES LONG X 7IN. WIDE. Attached Images

17th June 2015, 07:46 AM	#33
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE SHORT VERSIONS OF THE U'U CLUBS ARE THOUGHT TO HAVE BECAME THE NORM AT THE END OF THE 19TH. CENTURY. THEY WERE THOUGHT TO HAVE FIRST BEEN CARVED WHEN THE SUPPLY OF THE LONG TRADITIONAL CLUBS RAN OUT. KARL VON DEN STEINEN WROTE IN 1897 THAT NOT A SINGLE OLD EXAMPLE OF THE LONG STYLE OF CLUB WAS ANYMORE IN THE ISLANDS. #1 THRU #7 A NICELY CARVED EXAMPLE OF MARQUESAN CLUB 45 CM. LONG. #8. OLDMAN CATALOG MARQUESAN U'U CLUB BUTTS WITH WRAPPED GRIPS. #9. OLDMAN CATALOG MARQUESAN STAFFS 85.5 TO 57.INCHES LONG, 1 TO 1.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER, AND A SLING. #10. DRAWING OF U'U CLUB #11 & # 12 TWO MARQUESAN STILTS BOTH 14 INCHES HIGH. Attached Images

5th September 2015, 12:20 AM	#34
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1. THRU #5. A SHORTER U'u CLUB SAID TO BE CIRCA 1940'S, 31 INCHES LONG #6. U'u DESIGN MAT. #7. THRU #12. 37.5 INCH, U'u SAID TO BE CIRCA 1930 ,HEAVY WOOD WITH PATINA CORRECT FOR THE TYPE OF WOOD. OLD SPLIT TO HEAD ON ONE SIDE. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 5th September 2015 at 01:24 AM.

5th September 2015, 02:03 AM	#35
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1. 19TH CENTURY MARQUESAS U'u 27.5 INCHES LONG #2. & #3. U'u 41.5 INCHES LONG, 19TH CENTURY #4. TEMPLE IN THE MARQUESAS WITH TIKI'S #5. & #6. MARQUESAS STILTS. Attached Images

1st June 2016, 06:39 PM	#36
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE MARQUESAS ITEMS #1. A VERY WELL DONE FIGURE OF A WARRIOR WITH A NICE CLUB IN THE NATIONAL MUSEUM IN WELLINGTON NEW ZEALAND. #2. A MARQUESAS CLUB IN THE AUCKLAND N. Z. MUSEUM. #3., #4., & #5. DETAIL OF MARQUESAS CLUBS. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 1st June 2016 at 06:52 PM.

24th August 2016, 10:45 PM	#37
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE PICTURES OF MARQUESAS CLUBS #1 THRU #6 U'U' WAR CLUBS, #7 IS A VERY WELL CARVED MARQUESAS FAN HANDLE. Attached Images

25th August 2016, 12:23 AM	#38
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	catalog Oldmans catalog listing some clubs for sale. He appears to have stopped dating the catalogues in June 1908, with number 63. They are still numbered after this. Assuming that they continued to be monthly then catalogue number 84 from which these were taken should have been February 1910. I have checked several websites and £18 in 1910 is somewhere between £1400 and £2000 today. I would gladly pay the latter to have one of these. Royston Attached Images

8th April 2021, 06:10 PM	#39
harvg Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 6	A Recent Acquisition Hi All, I usually collect Fijian artefacts, but couldn't pass up the opportunity to acquire an UU club. Any help or opinions as to age/valuation etc, would be greatly appreciated. harvg Attached Images