30th May 2009, 12:25 AM | #31 |
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OK, boys and girls,
TRY TO BEAT THIS ONE!!!!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_4698wt_1167 |
30th May 2009, 03:07 AM | #32 |
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Sure Ariel, happy to.
This was posted by Matchlock over in another thread. It's a 17th century Italian lantern shield. Do note the toothed blade/spike sticking out of the shield boss. F Last edited by fearn; 30th May 2009 at 03:31 AM. |
30th May 2009, 09:32 AM | #33 |
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Surely this one ought to have a ranking
I think this one definitely deserves a mention.
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I covered that one for you Royston
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30th May 2009, 08:48 PM | #35 |
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Sorry, boys, no cigar.
Yours are functional: the shield more or less so, but the dao can be used with no problems. Just imagine how to use my example! It is truly weird! |
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I have one, and also Oriental-Arms recently sold one:
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=2957 A "Zulfikar Sousson Pata" maybe? |
31st May 2009, 03:46 PM | #38 |
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Guys, off topic, though still within the parametres of the discussion, What is the correct spelling of the Sousson Pata?
I only ask as I have recently added a superb early example to my personal collection. Is it Sousson Pata or Sosun Patta? Thanks Gav |
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Elgood actually spells it "Sosan Pattah" I think since it's not a word originally written in our alphabet, it's more a question of phonetics than anything else.
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31st May 2009, 08:15 PM | #40 |
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Works for me. Since it's probably not an over-sized cheese knife, does it have a known function (social or otherwise), or is it one of those weapons that (to paraphrase Pratchett) is designed to be seen, rather than used?
BTW, I think the lantern shield falls into that category. Aside from the fact that it's a left handed weapon in a right-handed milieu, can you image trying to stab someone with a blade that comes off your elbow at a 15 degree angle to your arm, while trying not to spill hot lantern oil over your forearm, while said lantern is shining light 90 degrees away from your target? Functional is not the word here. F |
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A Chinese pair
I'm pretty sure these would rate on the weird list and they are users.
http://www.swordsantiqueweapons.com/s061_full.html Gav |
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that tis but a child's bat'leth
similar to the one used here in london by the UK metropolitan police for crowd control. |
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You there Captain...
Beam me up!!!
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I'm not talking about the Chinese wheel weapons, exactly. I've got a pair of modern deer horn knives myself, and once upon a time I even learned a set for them. The martial artist who made those famous (Dong Hai Chuan, founder of baguazhang) worked as a tax collector in China, and he carried a pair of deer-horn knives prominently wherever he went. People knew of him by reputation, and knew about those knives, and (apparently) didn't give him much trouble. That's a useful kind of weapon. No, I'm more thinking of things like that bat'leth, which is basically an art-piece turned into a mass-produced "martial arts" weapon, whether it's useful or not. How long has this kind of thing been going on? How often were smiths inspired by some story or picture or other to make a weapon? Or how about those Chinese weapons that incorporate seven stars, rings, multiple tips and piercings, because one of the heroes in The Water Margin carried a sword like that? Has anyone got an old example? F |
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That policemans expression is so cool you might even think he has been practasing in the mirror. No he has been dealing with scummers for too long and seen it all before.
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in actuality, someone was caught robbing a convenience store with that, the police of course confiscated it. i understand two seven-elevens in the states were similarly robbed with bat'leths. obviously a major crime wave.
there is a variant called the sword of kahless that even more resembles the chinese single handed form, in that it also has a central point and a sigle hand grip area. i think someone on the star trek team must have visited an indian arms and armour museum, there are so many odd and unusual forms there including double ended. the chinese run a close second also. maybe a pre-industrial asian visit by klingon's i'd not be surprised at a similar ancient form. |
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Any credit card you might have with a sharpened edge.
Hugely popular amongst the criminal population of Russia. |
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I'd guess Chinese. Most of the Star Trek people are based in California, especially LA and San Francisco. There's a thriving Chinese martial arts community here, but not a lot of Indian martial arts or their weapons. Based on simple proximity, I'd guess Chinese influences first. Best, F |
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On the left, the wrist knife is called an "Ararait" of the Turkana tribe. On the right, the finger knife is a variant of the Ngigolio knife of the Turkana, but bears some resemblance to the Corogat, and finger knife used by several tribes for extracting teeth. For what its worth Dave A. |
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