Archaic kalis gamble - Page 2

Sajen · 2nd November 2014, 10:41 AM

Thank you Jose,

I am not sure about the hippo ivory, will try to take better pictures!

The blade still need more cleaning and polishing before it can be etched.

Do you know how to do this sort of binding? Someone other?

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 30th November 2014, 06:52 PM

The pommel is attached again firmly and I have etched the blade, no twistcore!

The lamination confirms nearly the engraving on the blade.
The only thing what still need to do is to blacken the binding at the handle.

Sajen · 30th November 2014, 06:54 PM

Some pommel pictures. Any thoughts about the ivory origin? My guess would be hippo ivory.

Sajen · 30th November 2014, 07:01 PM

Together with it's new friends!

Spunjer · 1st December 2014, 01:01 PM

seems to be you're amassing quite an arsenal, Detlef! congrats!!! i specially love scabbards similar to the third one from the left. very strong indo influence on that...

Sajen · 1st December 2014, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

seems to be you're amassing quite an arsenal, Detlef! congrats!!! i specially love scabbards similar to the third one from the left. very strong indo influence on that...

Hi Ron, I am sure that I will green with envy when I will see your kris arsenal!

The kris with the indo influence was shown here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=archaic+kris Still need to restore the handle.

Regards,
Detlef

T. Koch · 2nd December 2014, 10:43 AM

Hi Detlef - cool archaic! I agree on your observation, that the pommel looks like hippopotamus tusk.

Best wishes, - Thor

Sajen · 2nd December 2014, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T. Koch

Hi Detlef - cool archaic! I agree on your observation, that the pommel looks like hippopotamus tusk.

Best wishes, - Thor

Hi Thor,

thank you for both!

Best regard,
Detlef

Spunjer · 3rd December 2014, 05:51 AM

thanks for the kind words, Detlef... regarding that kris with the broken handle: i think the best way would be to tackle the problem is just to get a new pommel. recarving an addition to the existing piece might or might not bring it back to the way it was. just a thought...

Rick · 3rd December 2014, 04:12 PM

Another observation/question: it is obvious that there is an inlayed strip running down the center line of the blade, is there not ?

If it won't show a pattern or signs of a twistcore then what the heck is it ???
Could it be that there is some other agent than the ones you have tried that might possibly bring out some detail in this strip ??

Sajen · 3rd December 2014, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Another observation/question: it is obvious that there is an inlayed strip running down the center line of the blade, is there not ?

If it won't show a pattern or signs of a twistcore then what the heck is it ???
Could it be that there is some other agent than the ones you have tried that might possibly bring out some detail in this strip ??

Hello Rick,

good observation! Could be that it is just a lamination like by this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=kris
But the blade will get a better polishing and an etch with an other etching agent, like you I have my doubts that this is all what this "strip" will show.

Regards,
Detlef

Spunjer · 5th December 2014, 12:40 AM

Detlef, Rick has an excellent point. here's an archaic that at first glance is quite similar to yours. even at close inspection, it's hard to see the fact that it's twistcore. the panday did such an excellent job, that the pattern is so controlled and very tight. heck, i had a hard time taking picture of it.
you never know; you might wanna really work on that archaic of yours; you just never know what it's hiding...

Rick · 5th December 2014, 12:59 AM

Agree, my example was quite unexceptional looking before I etched it; and it took a few applications to even bring the pattern out faintly .

I used circuit board etchant .

Sajen · 6th December 2014, 11:46 AM

Thank you Ron and Rick for showing your beautiful examples. I've etched the blade quickly because I was curious to see what will come out and now I have the hope that my blade can show also a twistcore.

Regards,
Detlef

Rick · 6th December 2014, 03:14 PM

Detlef, when I etched my kris I only applied the etchant to the center area where the core is using a Q Tip .

Sajen · 6th December 2014, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Detlef, when I etched my kris I only applied the etchant to the center area where the core is using a Q Tip .

Thank you Rick, very good hint!

The edge area of the blade is already very dark so this is a very useful advice for me!

Regards,
Detlef

30th November 2014, 06:52 PM	#32
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	The pommel is attached again firmly and I have etched the blade, no twistcore! The lamination confirms nearly the engraving on the blade. The only thing what still need to do is to blacken the binding at the handle. Attached Images

30th November 2014, 06:54 PM	#33
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Some pommel pictures. Any thoughts about the ivory origin? My guess would be hippo ivory. Attached Images

30th November 2014, 07:01 PM	#34
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Together with it's new friends! Attached Images

5th December 2014, 12:40 AM	#42
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Detlef, Rick has an excellent point. here's an archaic that at first glance is quite similar to yours. even at close inspection, it's hard to see the fact that it's twistcore. the panday did such an excellent job, that the pattern is so controlled and very tight. heck, i had a hard time taking picture of it. you never know; you might wanna really work on that archaic of yours; you just never know what it's hiding... Attached Images

5th December 2014, 12:59 AM	#43
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Agree, my example was quite unexceptional looking before I etched it; and it took a few applications to even bring the pattern out faintly . I used circuit board etchant . Attached Images

2nd November 2014, 10:41 AM	#31
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Thank you Jose, I am not sure about the hippo ivory, will try to take better pictures! The blade still need more cleaning and polishing before it can be etched. Do you know how to do this sort of binding? Someone other? Regards, Detlef

1st December 2014, 01:01 PM	#35
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	seems to be you're amassing quite an arsenal, Detlef! congrats!!! i specially love scabbards similar to the third one from the left. very strong indo influence on that...

2nd December 2014, 10:43 AM	#37
T. Koch Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mother North Posts: 189	Hi Detlef - cool archaic! I agree on your observation, that the pommel looks like hippopotamus tusk. Best wishes, - Thor

3rd December 2014, 05:51 AM	#39
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thanks for the kind words, Detlef... regarding that kris with the broken handle: i think the best way would be to tackle the problem is just to get a new pommel. recarving an addition to the existing piece might or might not bring it back to the way it was. just a thought...

3rd December 2014, 04:12 PM	#40
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Another observation/question: it is obvious that there is an inlayed strip running down the center line of the blade, is there not ? If it won't show a pattern or signs of a twistcore then what the heck is it ??? Could it be that there is some other agent than the ones you have tried that might possibly bring out some detail in this strip ??

6th December 2014, 11:46 AM	#44
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Thank you Ron and Rick for showing your beautiful examples. I've etched the blade quickly because I was curious to see what will come out and now I have the hope that my blade can show also a twistcore. Regards, Detlef

6th December 2014, 03:14 PM	#45
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Detlef, when I etched my kris I only applied the etchant to the center area where the core is using a Q Tip .