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Sampurasuuunnn ...
Sorry, wrong placement Amit munduuurrr ... Last edited by Pangeran Datu; 27th November 2006 at 06:50 AM. Reason: Wrong placement |
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Just to clarify, Bagongan language is only used inside the Yogyakarta Kraton and it is not any easier to learn if you know krama inggil because it uses a whole different vocabulary. It is an egalitarian language with no levels like Krama - Ngoko, a royal version of the Samin dialect from around Bojanegara. A very informative thread. Salam, Bram. |
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Sampurasuunn ..
Hello All, I'm testing my ability to post pictures ![]() Cheers. Amit munduurr .. |
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You appear to have been successful P.D.
Do you care to tell us where the collection in the photos is from? ![]() |
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I just happened by to check on my success or otherwise and read your query. I believe the pictures are of part of a Display Collection at one of the palaces of the Cirebon Household. They were recently passed on to me by a member of the Household, who knew of my interest in kerises. As to in which palace; that, I don't know. (However, I suspect this Collection may be in the Karaton Kasepuhan complex, as I know that they have a museum there). (BTW, in the polite circles of the region, the more refined term DUHUNG is used instead of KERIS, just as duwung/curiga/wangkingan is used as a more refined term by other such circles). Regards, ![]() Amit munduurr .. |
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Hi Pangeran Datu,
Thanks for the pictures. The glare and the flash are affecting the overall quality of the pictures. Cannot see much unfortunately, mostly profiles of the pieces. ![]() Would appreciate the effort for better pictures. ![]() These looks like fine kerises. Good effort. ![]() |
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Therefore, as common ground, in this public forum, I believe "keris" is the most appropriate to be used. ![]() |
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Hello David, My sincerest apologies for causing any concern to you and others. The last comment in brackets of my last post was merely meant as a sort of footnote (for the uninitiated) for the use of the term 'DUHUNG' in the title. The 'region' referred to is the region around Cirebon. Of course I am aware of the many different terms for the same thing that pervades the South-East Asian archipelago. That's the nature of the beast, when you have such diverse groups and languages. I am also aware that, as English is the lingua franca of this forum, keris/kris is the accepted term.(Even in the archipelago, keris is the term used generally). Once again, I beg forgiveness from those of you whose sensitivities I have transgressed upon. Regards, ![]() Amit munduurr .. |
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Thanks for your clarification Pangeran Datu.
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