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Hi Barry the price is 340.00 dollar in euro s 285,00 so not to bad for the parang
But it is not an mandau. A mandau is also made for headhunting and have an amount of magic and mystery is involved by making it without these things it is an Dyak sword and no mandau. The one on ebay is not an mandau by the dayak rules this can be read page 79 headhunters and woodcarvers from Coppens |
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THE SUBJECT OF DAYAK WEAPONS SEEMS TO GET MORE COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING
![]() ![]() ![]() I THINK THE PARANG SOLD ON EBAY WAS NOT TOO BAD OF A DEAL AT THAT PRICE AS THEY ARE NOT COMMON AND ARE USED IN CEREMONYS , WEDINGS AND SHOWS BY THE DAYAKS THEMSELVES SO I DON'T CONSIDER THEM AS JUST FOR THE TOURIST MARKET. I SUSPECT IT WOULD NOT BE CHEAP TO PURCHASE ONE WITH THAT DEGREE OF WORKMANSHIP NEW IN BORNEO TODAY. |
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Hi Barry wich book you have in german I might trade it for a english one if you like.
The "mandau" (parang) on ebay was a nice piece for that money . but it had not the intention t be as a gift or ceremonial weapon. |
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THE BOOK I HAVE IN GERMAN IS (MALEREI UND TECHNISCHE KUNSTE BEI DEN DAYAKS). BY A. R. HEIN ALSO WITH (INDONESICHE SCHWERTGRIFFE) BY W. HEIN. IT APPEARS TO BE A GOOD BOOK WITH LOTS OF DAYAK DESIGNS ESPECIALLY SHIELDS WITH SWORDS FROM BORNEO, NIAS AS WELL AS OTHER COUNTRYS AND ISLANDS IN THE REGION. I WOULD CERTIANLY TRADE FOR A COPY IN ENGLISH BUT CAN AT LEAST SEE A LARGE VARIETY OF THINGS DAYAK I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE IT WAS NOT A CHEAP BOOK. I GOT IT RECENTLY ON EBAY FROM MANDAUKUDI AS MOST OF THE GOOD REFRENCES SEEM TO BE IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH AND I HOPE I CAN PUZZLE IT OUT OVER TIME. IS IT A GOOD REFRENCE OR WOULD I BE BETTER OFF WITH SOMETHING ELSE?
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Hi Barry this is an good book and no translation in Enlish so I would keep it
But there is a nice catalogue from Coppens wich is a nice information book, and the shelford plubication wich can be copyed . |
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Hello Group:
Have seen in recent times more than several very good quality mandau handles on the sword that have a very old looking smoked patina. Some, of course show up on ebay in the past have this, but they appear to be fake overall. What confuses me is that some really appear to have a smokey patina and are very good quality and old. Is this because they are smoked originally, left in a longhouse and pick it up there and have never been cleaned or what? It seems that most nice dayak mandau have been rubbed or kept clean on the handle. If the rest of the sword is not smoked patina and the handle is; isn't this a little suspicious also? Appreciate your comments, Asian Collector |
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HI Asian collector if a handle is smoked I always suspicious because the handle is the most touched off the mandau .
It can be turned a little yellow from the time but not to dark as the mostly you see. the old man Jimpul is about 150 years old dark in and glossy at the parts that have been touched . |
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From the oldman cataloque
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Here are some nice rare handle s too
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here's the Jimpul I bought this week. didn't she tell you that it had a scabbard? note the very old brass hook and the ols piece of bone on the belt. Arjan. www.thehornbill.com |
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Hi Arjan can you show me the end off the scabbard
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here some other details. Arjan. |
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Hi Arjan this is old style scabbard
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according the seller it was in their family before 1920. do you have any examples with this scaabard end? arjan. |
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Hi Arjan I have to search
I have seen latoks with this scabbard type Ben |
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Bumped up for Bill.
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I would love to see a pic of a Mandau or Jimpul that went quietly for 5-6 K! Anyone has something like that for our education?
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Hi Ariel the headman Jimpul from me that did sell fast for more than 7500.00 dollar
The Oldman will went over 10.000.00 dollar if it will come on the market But that one will not have the time to reach ebay it will be sold at the moment I decide .( there is an waiting list for that one) Ben Last edited by Dajak; 11th October 2008 at 08:26 AM. |
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