Sword of the Prophet Mohammed - Page 2

Dom · 3rd May 2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Those 3 gigantic european blades... Are they fake?

Hi Lofti
your question is pertinent, but ... I dunno

they are recorded as "Medieval European Swords" ...
(2 lines; one in Turkish, and translation in English)
no more comment

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ALEX · 3rd May 2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom

Hi Alex
very well, you'll be the right man, for the right purpose, to confirm from where I took those pics ! .. Istanbul Military Museum or Topkapi, I dunno any more

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Dom, great pictures. The displays are not of current Military Museum exhibit. I think they're of Topkapi. I have not been to Topkapi arms room yet, it's been closed for a few years and still remains closed. Were these pictures taken more than 2 years ago?

Dom · 3rd May 2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

Were these pictures taken more than 2 years ago?

Alex
December 11th, 2008, on our way back from Egypt to France
my filing is in order, recorded under "Topkapi'" label

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Henk · 3rd May 2011, 09:05 PM

Dom, those picture are made in the Topkapi palace.

A.alnakkas, I cann't tel you if these three european blades are replica's, but those swords are the so called two handers and a bit larger than a common sword.

A.alnakkas · 3rd May 2011, 10:08 PM

I've heard alot of two-handers and seen them on pictures alot. Never thought they are THAT big.

On topic: isnt the drawing of Prophet david (pbuh) in persian style? I personally doubt that those are authentic but surely they are lovely pieces. At best i'd trace them back to the abbasid period which is historically known for using the Family of the Prophet as propaganda so its kinda logical that they would use such swords attributed to the Prophet (pbuh)

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 4th May 2011, 09:23 PM

The Topkapi is often used as an important reference by the Islamic sword specialists such as Messrs Elgood and North both highly respected masters of their subject. Of the 9 swords attributed I wonder if at least one with turned down quillons and the combination of a broad blade with a short tang(therefor similarities in hilt construction) and dominant pommel are feasibly linkable to the Omani Short Battle Sword ? I am very jelous because I visited the Topkapi on a Tuesday to be met with a sign on the door;
Closed Tuesdays for Cleaning.

Edster · 5th May 2011, 12:40 AM

Alanakkas,

Those three huge blades must be examples of the legendary Two Man Swords of Viking lore. I've read about them, but never seen an attributed example.

Regards,
Ed

4th May 2011, 09:23 PM	#36
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	The 9 Topkapi Swords. The Topkapi is often used as an important reference by the Islamic sword specialists such as Messrs Elgood and North both highly respected masters of their subject. Of the 9 swords attributed I wonder if at least one with turned down quillons and the combination of a broad blade with a short tang(therefor similarities in hilt construction) and dominant pommel are feasibly linkable to the Omani Short Battle Sword ? I am very jelous because I visited the Topkapi on a Tuesday to be met with a sign on the door; Closed Tuesdays for Cleaning.

3rd May 2011, 09:05 PM	#34
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Dom, those picture are made in the Topkapi palace. A.alnakkas, I cann't tel you if these three european blades are replica's, but those swords are the so called two handers and a bit larger than a common sword.

3rd May 2011, 10:08 PM	#35
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	I've heard alot of two-handers and seen them on pictures alot. Never thought they are THAT big. On topic: isnt the drawing of Prophet david (pbuh) in persian style? I personally doubt that those are authentic but surely they are lovely pieces. At best i'd trace them back to the abbasid period which is historically known for using the Family of the Prophet as propaganda so its kinda logical that they would use such swords attributed to the Prophet (pbuh)

5th May 2011, 12:40 AM	#37
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 408	Alanakkas, Those three huge blades must be examples of the legendary Two Man Swords of Viking lore. I've read about them, but never seen an attributed example. Regards, Ed