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Great thread from 'the old days'!!!
Mark, perfectly illustrates what an astute collector you are, and how much we have learned with the things you have shared here over so many years. Outstanding Cap'n!!! ![]() |
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Thanks, Cap'n Jim! Mine pales in comparison to the original starter of this thread, but it is interesting to note that the hilt on my more primitive piece is made from tropical carved orangy-colored wood. These Dutch lion hangers and swords all date to the 1650-1700 period, right during the time of the Anglo-Dutch Wars. This conflict mostly took place in the Spice Islands and there-abouts. It seems mine might have been fashioned in such a place for a Dutch sailor or captain, as this style of sword was, as noted, carried by some of the heads of the VOC.
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Thank you gentlemen.
I cleaned it with a small wire brush (for gimlets). Luckily the rust or patina was thick but very easy to remove. On other items it didn´t work with that method. Intererstingly there are remains of glasslike black material in some of the carves, which makes me think that maybe the structure was elaborated with a Niello technique. Best regards Andreas |
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Dear all,
allow me to fetch up this old thread. It´s now nearly 10 Years I own this piece and it still won´t let me go. From time to time I do a bit of research on it and my biggest dream is to find a painting showing it´s owner with the sword ![]() But anyway: I just stumbled over a picture I saved as a reference years ago with the comment "Sweden, 1660-90". I´ve found several swords with similar lion cross-guard, many of them indicates the Netherlands as origin but there are also pieces with other provenience. But this is the first time I found this wave-like decorations on the guards. Also the tool used to decorate the stylized head seems to be similar to the one used to form the lions coat. Maybe this can be a another hint to its origin. Sadly I can´t remember where I saved it from, only that it was a (Swedish?) museums online gallery without more information. Does anyone of you know similar examples? Kind regards Andreas |
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Dear Victrix,
thank you very much for your important information on Swedish sword production! These information and the fact that it was found in Northern Germany make it indeed not so likely, that it is a Swedish piece. But it underlines the good possibility to be Dutch. Kind regards Andreas Quote:
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![]() The Blade, at least, looks Dutch from the two tulips stamp. The more I look, the more tulipy the flowers look. ![]() |
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That´s a pretty interesting point! I did never pay attention to the form of the flower. Just looked at it as a flower pot mark. It indeed looks pretty much like the flower pot is filled with tulips! On the other hand the running wolf mark is mostly attributed to Solingen...
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A Photo of the wolf would be nice. ![]() |
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Of course
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Thanks, wolf & Tulips add a conundrum to the enigma.
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