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more pics means more details !!
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This is another keris, courtesy of Donny Yonatan, called Kanjeng Jiwana
the inspiration of the pamor is of course wood burl, meaning we must be like plants, the first to grow and the first to sacrifice so other living being may inhabit an area basically humility and perseverance enjoy |
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The tambal pamor work is amazing. Thank you for sharing the photos Satsujinken.
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Thank you Satsujinken for all the pictures and this interesting thread!
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It is beautiful, btw, but at the risk of displaying my ignorance it doesn't look like what i understand as pamor tambal. ![]() |
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I thought that was tambal when I first looked at it, and I guess, in a way, it is tambal, but its a new approach, I think.
From what I can see and guess, it looks as if the pamor has been welded normally, but then the separating lines have been cut into the pamor and filled with strips of black material, probably steel, because of the lower weld heat required. The forging has then been returned to the forge and another couple of weld heats put into it to fix the separating strips in place. Of course, I'd need to examine this blade in the hand to confirm my guess, but however it was done, the effect is a new initiative. I've said it before:- these blokes are amongst the world's best pattern welders. Maybe the best of them are the world's best pattern welders. |
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Rasdan and Alan are referring to the keris in posts #30 and 31 I think. Regards |
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Yes, the Bali one.
Strictly speaking "tambal" is a patch that mends something, but in this Bali keris the patches are not the pieces of pamor, the "tambal" is --- I believe --- the strips between the pieces of pamor:- look very closely at the way the grain continues from one island of pamor to the next, and then look even more closely at the junction between the black separating strip and the solid black border material. I'd need to handle it to be certain of what I think has been done, but in any case, however it was done it is brilliant work. |
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Hi David,
Sorry for my late reply. As suggested by Jean, I am referring to keris in post 31. It is just that at that time I think that the pamor bits are inserted into the baja, but upon closer inspection I think Alan is right, the baja are the ones that were inserted into the pamor. |
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Sorry for causing confusion David.
I didn't check the post number because there was only one blade there with pamor that gave the appearance of tambal, and I mistakenly thought you were talking about that one. My apologies. |
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Thank you for your kind offer, but I normally don't go to Jakarta when I'm in Indonesia, additionally, I'm back from Jawa only a few weeks ago, so it will probably be sometime next year before I go again.
But I will keep your offer in mind and contact you if I do go to Jakarta. Thanks again. |
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