Hybrid kris for comment - Page 2

Battara · 12th September 2022, 08:54 PM

As requested a while back, here are closeups of the blade on my kris:

JBG163 · 13th September 2022, 10:34 PM

XasteriX
There is flaws on yours that would indicate a laminated structure.

Battara
Honestly, can't tell for yours !

Rick · 13th September 2022, 10:56 PM

This is the same result that came up when you etched one of my krises, Jose.
Mystifying....

JBG163 · 13th September 2022, 11:03 PM

They probably are forge folded. Maybe the steel was well refined and almost homogeneous. Or, there is no carbon difference in the initial steel so, it is hard to discriminate the layer. In those cases, best is to search for flaws or bad welding.

xasterix · 14th September 2022, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBG163

XasteriX
There is flaws on yours that would indicate a laminated structure.

Battara
Honestly, can't tell for yours !

Thanks very much for the assessment!

Now I know.

Battara · 14th September 2022, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBG163

They probably are forge folded. Maybe the steel was well refined and almost homogeneous. Or, there is no carbon difference in the initial steel so, it is hard to discriminate the layer. In those cases, best is to search for flaws or bad welding.

That is a very good point, and so only the heat tempering would show then.

xasterix · 17th September 2022, 06:04 AM

BTW- for whoever is interested in the internal structure of the hilt- part of the horn hilt had a wide crack, so I decided to open it up and secure the surface gap with no-sag epoxy (I don't want tu fill up the whole interior because that would significantly alter the wield).

It's difficult to take pics, but this is the most decent close up I can get. It seems that the tang was extended by welding a portion of a small honing rod (or sharpening steel) and ran all the way to the peen bolt. The inside of the hilt had small bits of wood used as lightweight fillers.

I find this interesting because I felt that the retrofitter had to make do with whatever materials were immediately available. It's a testament to the ingenuity of artisans in a previous era.

12th September 2022, 08:54 PM	#31
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	As requested a while back, here are closeups of the blade on my kris: Attached Images

13th September 2022, 10:56 PM	#33
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	This is the same result that came up when you etched one of my krises, Jose. Mystifying.... Attached Images

17th September 2022, 06:04 AM	#37
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 653	BTW- for whoever is interested in the internal structure of the hilt- part of the horn hilt had a wide crack, so I decided to open it up and secure the surface gap with no-sag epoxy (I don't want tu fill up the whole interior because that would significantly alter the wield). It's difficult to take pics, but this is the most decent close up I can get. It seems that the tang was extended by welding a portion of a small honing rod (or sharpening steel) and ran all the way to the peen bolt. The inside of the hilt had small bits of wood used as lightweight fillers. I find this interesting because I felt that the retrofitter had to make do with whatever materials were immediately available. It's a testament to the ingenuity of artisans in a previous era. Attached Images

13th September 2022, 10:34 PM	#32
JBG163 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: France Posts: 207	XasteriX There is flaws on yours that would indicate a laminated structure. Battara Honestly, can't tell for yours !

13th September 2022, 11:03 PM	#34
JBG163 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: France Posts: 207	They probably are forge folded. Maybe the steel was well refined and almost homogeneous. Or, there is no carbon difference in the initial steel so, it is hard to discriminate the layer. In those cases, best is to search for flaws or bad welding.