Period Photos of People with Ethnographic Arms - Page 16

gp · 29th December 2023, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

A warrior from Galela, Halmahera. There is my wife born, in Galela.

terima kasih banyak tuan D , thnx a lot Mista D.

Hereby some more pics of the North / utara Maluku from the Alifuru people

and best wishes to your most charming wife ...Ratu Rumah !

gp · 29th December 2023, 12:52 AM

and some more pics how their tradition is kept alive, both at home and in NL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKWtW6XnsCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLFh7mS3TNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9pH_5bkzY

Happy new Year to all of you / selamat tahun baru ♥

Sajen · 29th December 2023, 02:58 PM

This picture looks like it shows Dayak warriors!

Sajen · 29th December 2023, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

A warrior from Galela, Halmahera. There is my wife born, in Galela.

Taken from Willy Kükenthal, "Im Malaysischen Archipel. Forschungsreise in den Molukken und in Borneo". 1896

Sajen · 29th December 2023, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

and some more pics how their tradition is kept alive, both at home and in NL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKWtW6XnsCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLFh7mS3TNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9pH_5bkzY

Happy new Year to all of you / selamat tahun baru ♥

Selamat tahun baru!

These pictures shows Alfuren from Ceram IMVHO.

gp · 30th December 2023, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

This picture looks like it shows Dayak warriors!

talking Dayaks...

gp · 30th December 2023, 08:27 PM

and whilst we are in the neighborhood...
an Algur from the Moluccans
2 pics taken in Halmaheira
a well to do gent from Java
a couple from Atjeh / Aceh
some pencak lads not to mess with
and some Molucccans
source: Rijksmuseum, National Foto Museum all in NL

gp · 30th December 2023, 09:13 PM

3 pics by Dr. Henricus Marinus Neeb taken in Atjeh in the 19th century

gp · 30th December 2023, 10:20 PM

and now some gents with moustaches from the Balkans ( Bulgar, Albanian, Greek, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Serb, Hercegowenian and Bosnian) not to mess with,
but as friends the best company you can wish for and...
having a drink some homemade stuff
( speaking from a drink experience with all the mentioned nationalities, except one )
☺☺☺

gp · 30th December 2023, 10:38 PM

the last few...

the last gent's dress looks close to the uniform & sword to the one from The Spekulatius Cookie Hussar

Sajen · 31st December 2023, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

and whilst we are in the neighborhood...
an Algur from the Moluccans
2 pics taken in Halmaheira
a well to do gent from Java
a couple from Atjeh / Aceh
some pencak lads not to mess with
and some Molucccans
source: Rijksmuseum, National Foto Museum all in NL

This picture shows an Alfur from the Wemale tribes of Ceram. Rare type of sword he holds.

Sajen · 31st December 2023, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

and whilst we are in the neighborhood...
an Algur from the Moluccans
2 pics taken in Halmaheira
a well to do gent from Java
a couple from Atjeh / Aceh
some pencak lads not to mess with
and some Molucccans
source: Rijksmuseum, National Foto Museum all in NL

This man doesn't look from Halmahera to my eyes, the shield is from Sulawesi and also the clothes looks to be from Sulawesi.
It seems that also old sources could be wrong.

Sajen · 31st December 2023, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

and whilst we are in the neighborhood...
an Algur from the Moluccans
2 pics taken in Halmaheira
a well to do gent from Java
a couple from Atjeh / Aceh
some pencak lads not to mess with
and some Molucccans
source: Rijksmuseum, National Foto Museum all in NL

Yes, that's typical Halmahera, salawaku and pade, also the dress is correct!

Sajen · 31st December 2023, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

and whilst we are in the neighborhood...
an Algur from the Moluccans
2 pics taken in Halmaheira
a well to do gent from Java
a couple from Atjeh / Aceh
some pencak lads not to mess with
and some Molucccans
source: Rijksmuseum, National Foto Museum all in NL

Moro people from Southern Philippines.

cyten · 2nd January 2024, 12:01 PM

Maharaja Ranjor Singh of Ajaigarh

gp · 12th January 2024, 07:30 PM

just got some Illustrated News papers from Germany, Austria and England between 1860 and 1900/1910

A nice one from Afghanistan

Changdao · 13th January 2024, 04:04 PM

Yi people in Yunnan or Sichuan with their laquered leather armour and leather shields.

In addition, a Korean painting representing Sichuanese Ming dynasty troops under Liu Ting during the Imjin War (1592-1598). Some of the troopers are wearing armours identical to the Yi ones.

cyten · 18th January 2024, 11:28 AM

India

gp · 2nd February 2024, 07:12 PM

Dagestan and Tsakhur from the south

gp · 2nd February 2024, 07:15 PM

back 2 the Balkans...

gp · 2nd February 2024, 07:16 PM

and Tserkes

gp · 17th March 2024, 02:03 PM

interesting also for art lovers amongst you...

after Rembrandt and Vermeer in the past, the Dutch Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam now has again a most interesting exhibition on Frans Hals, with paintings from all over Europe . It is till June and reservation is required.

I just returned and was "blown outta my socks" by the detail and beauty of his portraying of the cold waepons at that time, specially the grips / hilts. Look for youself and enjoy !

gp · 17th March 2024, 02:16 PM

and the last couple of piccs

fernando · 17th March 2024, 05:52 PM

Splendid !!!

gp · 19th March 2024, 02:32 PM

looking up something, I stumbled upon these 3 interesting items:

Three Arrowheads, circa 1437-39. Bohemia, probably Prague. Exhibited at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York

These extremely large arrowheads, originally mounted on wooden straps, probably served as symbols of rank.

They are decorated with royal monograms and insignia as well as religious invocations. The three prongs bear the monogram of AR Albert, King of Bohemia and Hungary (reigned 1437-39). In one case the monogram AE is also found, probably for Albert and Elizabeth, his queen.

The right and left arrowheads bear the mark of the Turkish Arsenal, indicating that they were captured by Ottoman forces, perhaps during the campaign of 1439 during which Albert was killed, and then stored in the Turkish Arsenal in Constantinople.

fernando · 19th March 2024, 02:46 PM

Beautiful pictures, gp.
But ... where are the "People with Ethnographic Arms" in them ?

.

gp · 19th March 2024, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Beautiful pictures, gp.
But ... where are the "People with Ethnographic Arms" in them ?

.

guess perhaps room to start a new topic like these kind of historic items ?

but to please your puristic rule; picture added now

Solution to a question....

fernando · 19th March 2024, 02:57 PM

Yes, obviously a new topic indeed. This one has hardly something to do with it

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gp · 19th March 2024, 03:01 PM

...

fernando · 19th March 2024, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

guess the weapons were the most important item here to discuss, never thought we were puristic like the inquisition within a certain topic...

C'mon gp. This is the one only topic dedicated to period people with Ethno weapons. As if you had no chance to post those arrowheads in a more adequate thread ... even in a new topic. I will skip over the puristic part !

29th December 2023, 12:52 AM	#452
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	and some more pics how their tradition is kept alive, both at home and in NL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKWtW6XnsCI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLFh7mS3TNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9pH_5bkzY Happy new Year to all of you / selamat tahun baru ♥ Attached Images Last edited by gp; 29th December 2023 at 01:09 AM.

29th December 2023, 02:58 PM	#453
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	This picture looks like it shows Dayak warriors! Attached Images

30th December 2023, 08:27 PM	#457
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	and whilst we are in the neighborhood... an Algur from the Moluccans 2 pics taken in Halmaheira a well to do gent from Java a couple from Atjeh / Aceh some pencak lads not to mess with and some Molucccans source: Rijksmuseum, National Foto Museum all in NL Attached Images Last edited by gp; 30th December 2023 at 09:15 PM.

30th December 2023, 09:13 PM	#458
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	3 pics by Dr. Henricus Marinus Neeb taken in Atjeh in the 19th century Attached Images

30th December 2023, 10:20 PM	#459
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	and now some gents with moustaches from the Balkans ( Bulgar, Albanian, Greek, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Serb, Hercegowenian and Bosnian) not to mess with, but as friends the best company you can wish for and... having a drink some homemade stuff ( speaking from a drink experience with all the mentioned nationalities, except one ) ☺☺☺ Attached Images Last edited by gp; 30th December 2023 at 11:03 PM.

30th December 2023, 10:38 PM	#460
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	the last few... the last gent's dress looks close to the uniform & sword to the one from The Spekulatius Cookie Hussar Attached Images

2nd January 2024, 12:01 PM	#465
cyten Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Caucasus Posts: 93	Maharaja Ranjor Singh of Ajaigarh Attached Images

12th January 2024, 07:30 PM	#466
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	just got some Illustrated News papers from Germany, Austria and England between 1860 and 1900/1910 A nice one from Afghanistan Attached Images

13th January 2024, 04:04 PM	#467
Changdao Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Spain Posts: 29	Yi people in Yunnan or Sichuan with their laquered leather armour and leather shields. In addition, a Korean painting representing Sichuanese Ming dynasty troops under Liu Ting during the Imjin War (1592-1598). Some of the troopers are wearing armours identical to the Yi ones. Attached Images

18th January 2024, 11:28 AM	#468
cyten Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Caucasus Posts: 93	India Attached Images

2nd February 2024, 07:12 PM	#469
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	Dagestan and Tsakhur from the south Attached Images

2nd February 2024, 07:15 PM	#470
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	back 2 the Balkans... Attached Images

2nd February 2024, 07:16 PM	#471
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	and Tserkes Attached Images

17th March 2024, 02:03 PM	#472
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	interesting also for art lovers amongst you... after Rembrandt and Vermeer in the past, the Dutch Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam now has again a most interesting exhibition on Frans Hals, with paintings from all over Europe . It is till June and reservation is required. I just returned and was "blown outta my socks" by the detail and beauty of his portraying of the cold waepons at that time, specially the grips / hilts. Look for youself and enjoy ! Attached Images Last edited by gp; 17th March 2024 at 02:19 PM.

17th March 2024, 02:16 PM	#473
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	and the last couple of piccs Attached Images

17th March 2024, 05:52 PM	#474
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Splendid !!!

19th March 2024, 02:32 PM	#475
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	looking up something, I stumbled upon these 3 interesting items: Three Arrowheads, circa 1437-39. Bohemia, probably Prague. Exhibited at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York These extremely large arrowheads, originally mounted on wooden straps, probably served as symbols of rank. They are decorated with royal monograms and insignia as well as religious invocations. The three prongs bear the monogram of AR Albert, King of Bohemia and Hungary (reigned 1437-39). In one case the monogram AE is also found, probably for Albert and Elizabeth, his queen. The right and left arrowheads bear the mark of the Turkish Arsenal, indicating that they were captured by Ottoman forces, perhaps during the campaign of 1439 during which Albert was killed, and then stored in the Turkish Arsenal in Constantinople. Attached Images Last edited by gp; 19th March 2024 at 02:59 PM.

19th March 2024, 02:46 PM	#476
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Beautiful pictures, gp. But ... where are the "People with Ethnographic Arms" in them ? .

19th March 2024, 02:57 PM	#478
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Yes, obviously a new topic indeed. This one has hardly something to do with it .

19th March 2024, 03:01 PM	#479
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 719	...