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Old 20th October 2021, 08:47 PM   #331
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Does look photoshopped. The guy on the right doesn't seem too happy about it either. Interesting swords, rather large...


Cool photo tho. 👍
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Old 20th October 2021, 09:29 PM   #332
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In Vietnamese they are called trường gươm 長劔, which means "long sword" or "long saber". By the time photography appeared, it was already an exclusively ceremonial weapon. In temples and shrines, it was often kept in the form of wooden models covered with multi-colored varnish.
Oval wicker shields are even more interesting and rare in my opinion.

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Old 29th November 2021, 03:44 PM   #333
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Few photos where you can see omani zanzibari nimcha
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Old 1st December 2021, 11:51 PM   #334
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Thank you for these images dat_man. The big photo on the bottom is especially intriguing. It depicts a man of high status with a nice shamshir seated on a fancy chair/throne. The people on his sides have nimcha hilted swords, and the two closest ones appear to have the ivory and gold hilt variety. It is similar to a photo in Hales showing a Comoros vizier with a shamshir and his bodyguards with nimchas. Pradines has a theory that the shamshir in East Africa was a status symbol, reserved only for very high ranking people.

The second row of standing men gets more eclectic when it comes to sidearms with a long saif, a crude shamshir hilted sword and a Western style sabre.
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Old 3rd December 2021, 09:53 AM   #335
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Just few additional examples from the archives of Moro peoples with their traditional weapons. Enjoy!
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Old 9th March 2022, 11:46 PM   #336
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Photo by Alexandre Marchand (from the book "African Train"),
around Dire Dawa (Ethiopia) 1911 – 1913
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Old 6th May 2022, 01:55 PM   #337
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Kampilan bearer of Dato Mastura, Cotabato. Peabody Museum.
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Old 11th May 2022, 07:14 PM   #338
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Dha Myaung sword, Burma
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not burma.. its taiwanese aborigines..
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Old 13th May 2022, 07:47 PM   #339
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Mongolian Archers first half 20thC.
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Old 13th May 2022, 09:43 PM   #340
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Neat. Bet those guys could shot the eye out a bug from 70 yards.
Curious, what's the sword the guy on the right in the first pic is carrying?
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Old 16th May 2022, 01:34 PM   #341
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Men from Trabzon armed with Yataghans, ball butt flintlock pistols, Shishane with strange shoulder holsters, and Russian Berdan No.1
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Old 23rd June 2022, 04:28 PM   #342
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Shishane, Boyliya, Caucasian Blades
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Old 23rd June 2022, 11:27 PM   #343
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Lavian Riflemen, AKA "strelniki"

Part of the Russian Imperial Army, in WW I about 30.000 men around 1917
Some later joined the Bolshevik revolution and hence its army
The majority remained in Latvia to protect the country due to an internal strugle and instability,
caused by 3 governments fighting for control ( German, Sovjet and Latvian) untill Latvia's independance 1920/22
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Old 24th June 2022, 07:29 AM   #344
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Hunters from kishlak (village) of Pai-Mazar. Central Asia. Tajikistan (Tajik SSR). 1932. (Hunters have old matchlock guns).
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Old 24th June 2022, 03:21 PM   #345
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Warlpiri family, Australia, 1920s. I love this image. The physique of that warrior is impressive.
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Albanian with Turkish Shishane
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Old 12th July 2022, 09:50 PM   #347
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Bosnian gent around 1890-1900
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Old 12th July 2022, 10:18 PM   #348
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a few more postcards dated 1910-1920
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Old 13th July 2022, 08:27 PM   #349
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another Bosnian man and a print from a monthly paper showing the Bosnisch-Herzegowinsche Infanterie Regiment marching in a Bosnian town ( either Mostar or Sarajevo)
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Old 13th July 2022, 09:39 PM   #350
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Officers Turkmen (Tekin) cavalry regiment (subdivision army Russian Empire) with traditional Turkmen weapons: shamshirs and kards
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Officers Turkmen (Tekin) cavalry regiment (subdivision army Russian Empire) with traditional Turkmen weapons: shamshirs and kards
this kard looks beautiful to me , more than interesting ;
what kind of kard would it be? from which country / origin ?
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this kard looks beautiful to me , more than interesting ;
what kind of kard would it be? from which country / origin ?

This is a Turkmen Kard knife from Central Asia. Turkmen tribes lived in the 19th - early 20th centuries on the territory and on the border of the Khiva Khanate.
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Old 19th July 2022, 10:33 PM   #353
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Thank you very much for adding the picture ; these look amazing !☼

Hope to own one of these someday .....

would these kards perhaps be the same as the one by Islam Khodja or would his be another / different one ?
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Old 5th August 2022, 09:04 PM   #354
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Aga aus Sarajevo im Waffenschmuck:
as displayed in the Landesmuseum, Sarajevo, circa 1899.
Source: Historical Archive of Sarajevo, Photograph Archive, Inv. No. 1276

Dignitaries in Sarajevo, circa 1898. Note the weapons inserted in the sash
of the standing nobelman (back row, on the right).
Source: Historical Archive of Sarajevo, Photograph Archive, Inv. No. 1329.
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Old 4th September 2022, 11:02 PM   #355
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some more Caucassian pics
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Old 5th September 2022, 08:24 AM   #356
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The first picture is not from Caucasus, but from Ukraine.
It is signed:
"Yuhym Bozhko, Otaman of the second infantry division of the Zaporozhian Sich, Year 1919"
Otaman is a military commander of the Ukrainian Cossacks.
An interesting photo.
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Old 5th September 2022, 01:37 PM   #357
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This photo is especially interesting given the fact that the Zaporozhian Sich was liquidated in 1775.
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Old 5th September 2022, 06:28 PM   #358
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Lavian Riflemen, AKA "strelniki"

Part of the Russian Imperial Army, in WW I about 30.000 men around 1917
Some later joined the Bolshevik revolution and hence its army
The majority remained in Latvia to protect the country due to an internal strugle and instability,
caused by 3 governments fighting for control ( German, Sovjet and Latvian) untill Latvia's independance 1920/22
That's a wonderful photo of Russian troops with the Winchester 1895 pattern musket in 7.62x54.
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Old 5th September 2022, 06:30 PM   #359
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Thank you both for the additional info. So 1775, perhaps he might have been also an inspiration for the character of Taras Bulba (like for instance Okhrim Makukha)

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