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Well folks it looks like another ebay seller has done it again. Take a look at the description, this guy can really spin a tale!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT I bet someone is going to be really unhappy when they find out where their Johnnie Reb dagger is actually from.
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It looks like you can make a bit of a killing in the Civil War market with Filipino knives....
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'Twas ever thus, David .
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Yup. I have seen tons of PI daggers sold as either Spanish or Confederate.
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HAHA Imagine all the Filipino daggers with the "KKK" stamped on them that are misrepresented.
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I've explained to him what it is & made him good offers but he's convinced it's early Klan & wants several thousand. |
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At a show I saw a Moro budiak spear head listed as an American revoltionary war pike and the seller wanted thousands for it.
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You got to wonder how much he's got invested in that knife . ![]() |
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In this on-line information age in which we live there is really no excuse for this kind of blind ignorance though. Just direct him to this Wiki page next time you see him. ![]() http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan |
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Well, it's pretty clear it's not what it's advertised to be. It's always a good idea to buy the blade and not the story. That having been said it looks like a well made piece with some age to it. More than I would spend on it but not unreasonable.
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Yes, on the whole this is a very well made dagger, probably second quarter of the 20th century, though it could be earlier and just had new fittings added at a later date. What really makes me wonder about is what the buyer was thinking when he bought this dagger, did he buy it knowing it was from the Philippines, or did he buy the Civil War story? If he bought the story how much aluminum and water buffalo horn did he think was being used during the American Civil War era?
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The optimist in may says the buyer knew what they where buying. The pictures where decent. It would be intresting to make note of the transaction number keep and eye on the seller's feed back and see what transpires.
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"It would be intresting to make note of the transaction number keep and eye on the seller's feed back and see what transpires."
I was already planning on doing just that. ![]() Robert |
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Side-note, a recent episode of "Pawn Stars" had a fellow bring in a heavily engraved Confederate sword. Rick, the owner, immediately was concerned about it being too nice & called in an expert. The expert didn't find any "proof" it was a fake or enhanced but would not verify authenticity or recommend it's purchase just because of the amount of fakes or altered pieces now on the market.
Be interesting to see a "Klan" knife brought into the store & see if they immediately know what it is. |
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What sickens me is how these idiots don't do any research whatsoever and get angry when I inform them of the truth. I have since stopped wasting my time and have to let the idiots rot with their overly high priced purchase, even though I want it but can't afford it. No anger in this whatsoever!
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Jose, I know what you mean. I had all intent of bidding on this when I first found it and sent a message to the seller to let him know what he had (I did NOT mention the fact that I was going to bid on it) but the information I offered was completely ignored. Like you, this was not the first time that I have offered help in identifying someone else's items just to be ignored and on one occasion very rudely told to mind my own business.
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I never contact Sellers anymore; gave that up about 6 years ago .
Total waste of time and effort; plus your good will and intentions . ![]() We need a Financial Darwin Award for the biggest eBay Sucker every year . ![]() *Of course as long as they're not forum members ..... ![]() ![]() |
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Hello Rick,
If we do ever decide to have a Financial Darwin Award for forum members I nominate myself for that pair of klewangs SLO's that I purchased. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Robert |
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The webbing hanger must be WW 2 period, not ? Nice big bold looking dagger by the way, I can imagine that you buy the civil war story if you are not into Philipine stuff ![]() |
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Education costs money . ![]() It's a nice Philippine dagger, but I don't think any of us want to see these go for so much . At least until we have stopped collecting . ![]() ![]() |
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Rick, You are right about it being a nice knife and about prices AFTER we quit collecting
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"Robert, that is a nice one too. A Mexcian Rebellion knife ?"
No, This is a rare side knife from the war of 1812 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Hello Gene,
Yes these show a very strong Spanish influence in their overall design. The triangular blade on my example is 1/4 inch thick at the guard. Like I said earlier, I would loved to have added the one from the auction to my collection. Robert |
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Hmmm, thats almost like a remounted lance head? I'd much rather have yours than the one in the auction ![]() |
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Thank you Gene, I was extremely happy to have found this dagger when I did but it is always nice when you can add another example to your collection. This other old warrior needed some TLC to bring it back to life but it would have been well worth the effort.
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![]() If that's the worst you have done you're nowhere in the competition . ![]() Ask me about the misplaced decimal point sometime .... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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"Ask me about the misplaced decimal point sometime"
OK, Now you've got me interested. ![]() ![]() Robert |
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