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And here close ups from the quiver from Palawan.
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Here the two darts for comparison. It seems that the Dayak darts get their poison some time before while the Palawan dart is without poison what let me guess that the darts get the poison just before hunting. But this is only a guess.
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Here both quiver with the blow gun I received with the Palawan item. It has some patina but seems not so old like the quiver and maybe shortened.
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The seller give me the information that the Palawan quiver is from the Batak people.
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Hi Detlef,
The dayak quiver is awesome ![]() ![]() Fantastic piece, complete with the hung. If you ever get tired of it.... |
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thank you very much. The best by this Tolor is that I get it very, very cheap in the beginning of the 90ties in Indonesia/Bali. So nobody shall speak that you can't buy good antiques in Indonesia. But unfortunally I've never seen a nice one like this again in Indonesia until now. Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 17th July 2009 at 01:22 PM. |
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Yep, Ebay is bombing us with Malay junk quivers. Too bad
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i becae obcessed with blowguns since i was about 4 years old seeing a documentary of how they were made and used by natives in ecudor
on blow guns in south east asia or that . area...... has anyone ever seen any papuan ones for sale... i have only ever seem them pictured in black and white images.. but some tribes there definitely used them some being very long with long darts being used. they appear to be made from spit hollowed out cane. like the south american ones. i guess closer to home in a way blow guns are still used in southern france but only in competition.. looks like form texts and images in europe in the middle ages steel ones just like the ones still use din france were used for hunting and sport. they came to europe from the middle east and their is definitely accounts of arabs using them in that time.. and from my understanding the arabs in turn got them from south east asia. others like the japanese and the native tribes in the eastern USA seem to be local developments. the reason i mention it is that looks like the malay people shave had a really strong love for the blow gun... eclipsing even bows and i suspect that they were common throught all malay groups in a common style untill guns really made them vanish and they just stayed on with the more isloated tribal peoples |
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After I've sold my Dayak tolor shown in the previous posts and the Batak quiver from Palawan also I was able to get a "new" Dayak tolor, not as nice as the old one but a good honest example.
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Hi Sagen
very nice QuiverS ,specially the short one. I did not seen your post before to start my thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23902 I can see that that you have a set of tolls do you have any needle like the two I have in my set ? Best Cerjak |
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I collected this a few weeks ago from a panday (Brooke's Point Palawano) in a mountain village in southern Palawan. The blowgun itself was too long to practically carry so I couldn't bring it. The design was a plain length (>2m) of bamboo with ~20cm of black resin coating the tip. The quiver wood hook is bound to the bamboo with heavy fishing line and the rope attaching the lid to the body is nylon. He quickly demonstrated cutting a dart plug from the soft balsa-like wood. These are still commonly used in the more remote villages.
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I forgot the last picture
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