wootz blade with high carbon inserted edge

RSWORD · 3rd December 2006, 02:25 AM

Here is an interesting example of an inserted edge where a high carbon edge is inserted between cheeks of wootz steel. This is from an early Ottoman sword and the wootz pattern is shami style. It has typical low contrast and the blade coloration is steel grey. You can see a few edge nicks and what looks to be a sword cut to the body of the blade. It is an old blade and given its long service life and many polishes it is no surprise that some of the homogeneous steel is peeking through.

Battara · 3rd December 2006, 09:23 PM

Wonderful example, thanks Rick. By the way, have I seen this kilij before?

Gt Obach · 3rd December 2006, 10:12 PM

Hi
I've also seen wootz welded to non-wootz... nice stuff..

i can also add that sometimes in a wootz ingot you will get some non-patterning areas in the billet.... this can arise from numerous reasons.... but that is another animal... i've had it happen where the ingot wasn't homogenous and some steel bits remained un melted... made a wootzy and patternweld mix...

Greg

ps... nice blade

RSWORD · 4th December 2006, 01:33 AM

Hi Gt,

I have also seen blades where the heat was not controlled properly and the pattern melted away in some areas so you had nice pattern say in 75% of the surface of the blade. However, in those cases, the non-pattern area seemed to have a cloudiness to it.

Jose, you have not seen this one before.

3rd December 2006, 02:25 AM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	wootz blade with high carbon inserted edge Here is an interesting example of an inserted edge where a high carbon edge is inserted between cheeks of wootz steel. This is from an early Ottoman sword and the wootz pattern is shami style. It has typical low contrast and the blade coloration is steel grey. You can see a few edge nicks and what looks to be a sword cut to the body of the blade. It is an old blade and given its long service life and many polishes it is no surprise that some of the homogeneous steel is peeking through. Attached Images

3rd December 2006, 09:23 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Wonderful example, thanks Rick. By the way, have I seen this kilij before?

3rd December 2006, 10:12 PM	#3
Gt Obach Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 116	Hi I've also seen wootz welded to non-wootz... nice stuff.. i can also add that sometimes in a wootz ingot you will get some non-patterning areas in the billet.... this can arise from numerous reasons.... but that is another animal... i've had it happen where the ingot wasn't homogenous and some steel bits remained un melted... made a wootzy and patternweld mix... Greg ps... nice blade

4th December 2006, 01:33 AM	#4
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	Hi Gt, I have also seen blades where the heat was not controlled properly and the pattern melted away in some areas so you had nice pattern say in 75% of the surface of the blade. However, in those cases, the non-pattern area seemed to have a cloudiness to it. Jose, you have not seen this one before.