Turkish Dagger?

Aurangzeb · 17th September 2006, 12:00 AM

Hello All!

I just bought this off Ebay the other day. I have seen several of these knives and have wanted one for a while, and I have finally got one. I have seen these attributed to Turkey is this correct? I think it may be Early 20th century. It seems crude so it might be a tourest knife but I still like it!

Any comments are welcome.

Mark...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

Lew · 17th September 2006, 02:06 AM

I think it is a form of nimcha dagger.

Lew

Aurangzeb · 17th September 2006, 03:29 AM

Here are links to similer threads.

Mark...

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=turkey
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=turkey

Battara · 17th September 2006, 07:38 PM

Actually I believe that this is Ethiopian and late 19c-early 20c.

katana · 17th September 2006, 11:11 PM

Hi Aurangzeb,
I have one of these....in fact you posted my thread on this particular dagger....like you, I like mine also.....its crude but it does have it's own 'charm'.
Battara, could you please explain why you think this type of knife originates from Ethiopia as yet, I have no conclusive proof of where my dagger came from......

Lew · 17th September 2006, 11:34 PM

Gentlemen

I do believe this is a type of shula dagger it really does not strike me as being Turkish it seems more North African or Morrocan. The blade are almost identical to the shulas. I must disagree with Battara the dagger is not Ethiopian in any way.

Lew

Aurangzeb · 18th September 2006, 04:35 AM

Hello Lew!

I know what you mean about it not looking very Turkish, I also see what you mean about it looking North African. This is just a guess but maybe these daggers come from Libya, once again only a guess. Is this theroy possible or not???

Mark...

Ian · 18th September 2006, 05:49 AM

A tourist knife from early to mid 20th C.

There is an identical example shown in Levine, p.481.*

Here is Levine's description: "About 15 inches overall. Curved blade with arabic inscription. Hook-like pommel and guard of ebony. Brass sheath. 19th-20th centuries."

Ian.

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* Bernard Levine. Levine's Guide to Knives and Their Values. Fifth edition. Krause Publication, Iola, WI. 2001

Aurangzeb · 19th September 2006, 03:33 AM

Thanks Ian! I think I will have to go get a copy of Levine's book now.

Mark...

Aurangzeb · 23rd September 2006, 03:01 AM

Here are some pictures of the dagger. I am suprised that the blade is good quality but thin, and it is sharp.

Mark....

17th September 2006, 12:00 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Turkish Dagger? Hello All! I just bought this off Ebay the other day. I have seen several of these knives and have wanted one for a while, and I have finally got one. I have seen these attributed to Turkey is this correct? I think it may be Early 20th century. It seems crude so it might be a tourest knife but I still like it! Any comments are welcome. Mark... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

18th September 2006, 05:49 AM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Definitely Turkish ... A tourist knife from early to mid 20th C. There is an identical example shown in Levine, p.481.* Here is Levine's description: "About 15 inches overall. Curved blade with arabic inscription. Hook-like pommel and guard of ebony. Brass sheath. 19th-20th centuries." Ian. ---------------------------------------- * Bernard Levine. Levine's Guide to Knives and Their Values. Fifth edition. Krause Publication, Iola, WI. 2001

23rd September 2006, 03:01 AM	#10
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Dagger Pix Here are some pictures of the dagger. I am suprised that the blade is good quality but thin, and it is sharp. Mark.... Attached Images Last edited by Aurangzeb; 23rd September 2006 at 04:05 PM.

17th September 2006, 02:06 AM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	I think it is a form of nimcha dagger. Lew

17th September 2006, 03:29 AM	#3
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Here are links to similer threads. Mark... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=turkey http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=turkey

17th September 2006, 07:38 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Actually I believe that this is Ethiopian and late 19c-early 20c.

17th September 2006, 11:11 PM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Aurangzeb, I have one of these....in fact you posted my thread on this particular dagger....like you, I like mine also.....its crude but it does have it's own 'charm'. Battara, could you please explain why you think this type of knife originates from Ethiopia as yet, I have no conclusive proof of where my dagger came from......

17th September 2006, 11:34 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Gentlemen I do believe this is a type of shula dagger it really does not strike me as being Turkish it seems more North African or Morrocan. The blade are almost identical to the shulas. I must disagree with Battara the dagger is not Ethiopian in any way. Lew

18th September 2006, 04:35 AM	#7
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello Lew! I know what you mean about it not looking very Turkish, I also see what you mean about it looking North African. This is just a guess but maybe these daggers come from Libya, once again only a guess. Is this theroy possible or not??? Mark...

19th September 2006, 03:33 AM	#9
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Thanks Ian! I think I will have to go get a copy of Levine's book now. Mark...