A Sword/Sabre To Identify

oariff · 19th July 2024, 12:41 PM

Hi All,

Could this sword/sabre be from Sumatra? Does it have a name? Looks like it has pamor.

Cheers.

Sajen · 19th July 2024, 11:39 PM

Very nice! Javanese IMVHO!

Regards,
Detlef

oariff · 20th July 2024, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Very nice! Javanese IMVHO!

Regards,
Detlef

Thanks Detlef. Some dutch influence in the handle?
Cheers.

A. G. Maisey · 20th July 2024, 03:55 AM

The blade is not a Javanese form of which I am aware, & I have never seen similar motifs in Javanese silver work.

I really have no firm opinion on where it might have originated.

naturalist · 23rd September 2024, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oariff

Thanks Detlef. Some dutch influence in the handle?
Cheers.

If possible, could we have clear picture of the beast?
Does it lion or something else? Looks like Si Tumang (dog in the folklore that is famous for hilt in Sundanese).

milandro · 23rd September 2024, 10:14 AM

This looks like a very elaborated form of Pedang Cagak.

While I admire the scabbard and the hilt and guard, they look way more elaborate than anything I have ever seen and also a little bit too pristine.

The pommel and guard are heavily influenced by Dutch infantry sabres (M1912?)

Amuk Murugul · 6th October 2024, 02:32 AM

Hullo oariff!

c.f. item 1 of http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...09&postcount=1

Best,

Amuk Murugul · 28th October 2024, 01:20 AM

Hullo oariff!

This may be closer to your example.

Best,

Ian · 29th October 2024, 01:14 AM

Based on these examples, could we call these "parade/cermonial swords" for high ranking military officers during the Dutch Colonial period (19th C)?

19th July 2024, 12:41 PM	#1
oariff Member Join Date: Apr 2024 Posts: 52	A Sword/Sabre To Identify Hi All, Could this sword/sabre be from Sumatra? Does it have a name? Looks like it has pamor. Cheers. Attached Images

6th October 2024, 02:32 AM	#7
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 460	Comparison Hullo oariff! c.f. item 1 of http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...09&postcount=1 Best,

28th October 2024, 01:20 AM	#8
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 460	Another example Hullo oariff! This may be closer to your example. Best, Attached Images

19th July 2024, 11:39 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,766	Very nice! Javanese IMVHO! Regards, Detlef

20th July 2024, 03:55 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,887	The blade is not a Javanese form of which I am aware, & I have never seen similar motifs in Javanese silver work. I really have no firm opinion on where it might have originated.

23rd September 2024, 10:14 AM	#6
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 474	This looks like a very elaborated form of Pedang Cagak. While I admire the scabbard and the hilt and guard, they look way more elaborate than anything I have ever seen and also a little bit too pristine. The pommel and guard are heavily influenced by Dutch infantry sabres (M1912?)

29th October 2024, 01:14 AM	#9
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Based on these examples, could we call these "parade/cermonial swords" for high ranking military officers during the Dutch Colonial period (19th C)?