17th September 2024, 10:12 PM | #1 |
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Jade hilted khyber knife
Dear members,
Here the khyber knife I had the chance to get , These are the pictures of.the auctionhouse I hope I will receive it soon. The jade hilt is interesting , I saw a lot of 1900 and recent peshkabz with this kind of hilt of average quality but I hope this one is a good one and I just found one indian ''khyber knife'' with jade hilt. The blade seems good too but has no special decorations or engravings, or damascening . ''Just' a good fighting weapon more than a parade tchi tchi one ?? |
17th September 2024, 10:28 PM | #2 |
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There is a chance this might be wootz.
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17th September 2024, 11:29 PM | #3 |
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Would agree with Gustav!
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18th September 2024, 12:26 AM | #4 |
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Thank you for your messages !
Yes it is fine wootz , that's what said the auctionhouse, Said too it was not common to have a high quality blade and hilt on a ''fighting'' or ''military'' model . Maybe made for an high rank army member... I will post pictures when I'll receive it. |
27th September 2024, 11:53 AM | #5 |
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I finallyreceived it,
I'm going to clean it soon and see what's going on with the blade. Interesting on the scabbard the first 7 holes with fake rubies or some kind of resin. Have any of you ever seen something like this ? Another thing I wanted to highlight was the small size of this Khyber, 48 cm long. Could it not be a large Indian kard which would then have been mounted with an Afghan military type scabbard at the end of the 19th century? |
27th September 2024, 11:56 AM | #6 |
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A kard like this one ?
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27th September 2024, 04:37 PM | #7 |
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I don't think these grips are of true jade. More likely what is known as Jade Onyx.
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27th September 2024, 07:03 PM | #8 |
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The one I get oh yes,
nephritic jade, certified by the gemologist of the auction house i personnally know since a decade. I already cleaned it and polished the blade, Just need to receive etchant to finish the job... |
30th September 2024, 07:12 PM | #9 |
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Here some results using ferric chloride,
few time... Not the best but we can see on both side an homogeneous fine grain structure. I hope to get some Nital but there are problems with customs 😬🙃.. |
2nd October 2024, 09:06 PM | #10 |
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Looks like a type of crystalline wootz to me.
Similar to Turkish or India crystalline wootz. |
3rd October 2024, 06:25 PM | #11 |
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Wow beautiful blade!!
( and nice job ! ) for the sheath I have already seen an identical one for a Khyber with ivory handle but I cannot put my hand on the picture . The handle is nice too and not common. Congrats |
4th October 2024, 07:30 PM | #12 |
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4th October 2024, 10:56 PM | #13 |
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Thank you all for your replies !
It is not made of jadeite jade ( the number one ) But yes good nephritic jade ( certiified as I wrote ) I found this ottoman dagger '' kard'' with a similar jade handle , Interesting wootz blade who links with the comment of Battara about Indian or Turkish crystalline wootz .( still thank you ) For the grit, I started with 400 ( they where a lot of scratches /stains , then 600, 800, 1000, 1200 and 1500, the finest grain I have. Then etching , ( and sure baking soda neutralisation ! ) results I think would have been better with Nital but I finished my small bottle time ago and can get it again easily 😑 |
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