Keris or not?

milandro · 11th September 2024, 11:43 AM

In my opinion, though not as experienced as others, the kris you show is South Sumatran Kris .
I have never seen that particular dhapur featured here (but others with more experience may be familiar with them)

The " ganja" appears to be not really separated from the blade with a " symbolic" separation

David · 12th September 2024, 08:28 PM

To answer your question Hugh, i would say no, this last keris you show is not Cengkrong. It clearly has a gandik (Cengkrong do not) and the keris is gonjo iras, meaning that the blade is all one piece without a separate gonjo, though it does have an incised line to mark out a gonjo area.

Interested Party · 13th September 2024, 04:25 AM

I look at this and can't help but wonder if it started life as ganjo iras or is this its second incarnation?

Sajen · 13th September 2024, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

I look at this and can't help but wonder if it started life as ganjo iras or is this its second incarnation?

Yes, it started it's life as gonjo iras!

David · 15th September 2024, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

I look at this and can't help but wonder if it started life as ganjo iras or is this its second incarnation?

You should be more specific about which keris you are referring to.

11th September 2024, 11:43 AM	#1
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 474	In my opinion, though not as experienced as others, the kris you show is South Sumatran Kris . I have never seen that particular dhapur featured here (but others with more experience may be familiar with them) The " ganja" appears to be not really separated from the blade with a " symbolic" separation Last edited by milandro; 11th September 2024 at 12:00 PM.

12th September 2024, 08:28 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	To answer your question Hugh, i would say no, this last keris you show is not Cengkrong. It clearly has a gandik (Cengkrong do not) and the keris is gonjo iras, meaning that the blade is all one piece without a separate gonjo, though it does have an incised line to mark out a gonjo area. Last edited by David; 12th September 2024 at 11:32 PM.

13th September 2024, 04:25 AM	#3
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 467	I look at this and can't help but wonder if it started life as ganjo iras or is this its second incarnation?