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12th July 2024, 05:55 PM
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Where is this Shield from?
Can anyone please name the culture that this circular rattan shield is from?
Initially I thought the shield was Chinese but the size & shape makes me doubt that it is. Thanks. |
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12th July 2024, 07:56 PM
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Hello Albert,
Could be Chinese, Tengpai but I am unsure. Regards, Detlef |
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13th July 2024, 04:24 PM
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Thanks for your reply Sajen.
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15th July 2024, 06:03 PM
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Along those lines Vietnam or Laos. Erik Farrow, a very reputable dealer currently has one similar to yours on his site for sale; the shield has provenance.
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15th July 2024, 08:05 PM
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It's sold so I can post it here for comparison and later reference. Here the original description: Large rattan Chinese Tengpai shield with a tiger face on the front. This style of shield was a military issue style for the special forces tiger division of the 18th and early 19th century. It is entirely made out of rattan with a large coil connected my small woven strips. The original handle is intact, and the paint is all original natural pigment. 27" diameter. 18th or early 19th century, China. ....Sold |
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16th July 2024, 10:27 AM
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Another sold one from Mandarinmansion. 77,5 cm diameter. There are other sold ones from this site.
I've stated before that I am unsure if the shield in question is Tengpai because I am missing the wooden "stop-ridge" by it which is seen normally by these shields. |
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16th July 2024, 08:38 PM
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Drac2k and Sajen, the shield I posted is closer to this Borneo example from the Smithsonian Institute, than Erik’s Tengpai.
The Borneo shield is smaller in diameter, I believe their Chinese cousins, from what I have observed are significantly larger. The “B” shield is flat while the Tengpai has a domed front. The darker rattan colors on my shield is dyed not painted, similar to the rattan weavings on a Mandau. With this I tend to believe my shield is from Borneo. The estate that I obtained my shield from had several items from Borneo as well. Here are 2 items (any idea what they are? ),that I acquired from the same estate. I’m not aware of their age. |
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16th July 2024, 09:30 PM
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Could the rightmost one be the grip for a piso raut biknife maybe?
https://www.artoftheancestors.com/bl...-van-zonneveld |
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17th July 2024, 08:28 AM
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I guess that the sticks are so called tun tun.  See here: https://www.google.com/search?q=daya...t=gws-wiz-serp |
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17th July 2024, 05:06 PM
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Tun-tun’s 🙂, so they are.
Thanks guys. |
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