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Old 20th June 2024, 11:47 AM   #1
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Thats all good news. Out of curiosity what is the drilling in the barrel to the right of the percussion bolster? I was wondering if the detachable stock extension had something to do with accommodating different styles of shooting. Either with the extension resting on the shoulder like a tiller or without the extension shooting from the bench rest.
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Old 20th June 2024, 02:33 PM   #2
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An obvious parallel is the Dutch bench rest target crossbow. Note the set triggers and maybe an idea for the form of the trigger guard.
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Old 21st June 2024, 05:56 PM   #3
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Thats all good news. Out of curiosity what is the drilling in the barrel to the right of the percussion bolster? I was wondering if the detachable stock extension had something to do with accommodating different styles of shooting. Either with the extension resting on the shoulder like a tiller or without the extension shooting from the bench rest.
Attached a picture of this hole. It is hard to see but i think there is a screw thread inside. It is not punctured all the way trough the bore either. I think it might have been a fastening point for the original lock.

You make a good point about the stock. I own a air rifle which can be modded to all sorts of uses. The barrel and action are all one piece but the rest can be altered. The same could be true for this target gun. Rather ingenious, thank you for that

Exactly, do you know if that style with a bench rwst was also employed in other countries? Trigger guard is a nice starting point too
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Old 22nd June 2024, 07:25 AM   #4
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Default Royal armouries Matchlock target gun - Matchlock target gun - about 1680

Long barrel of square section ornamented with ribs and flutes towards the breech then round with widely spaced flutes the flared muzzle being octagonal. Wide Vee backsight. A nearly obliterated mark possibly that of Antwerp is stamped near the breech. Lock of similar type to that of No.XII.18 but with brass lockplate and match-holder. Pan-cover and scear missing.

Stock with butt of 'bellied' form; the projecting grip for the left hand is carved with an eight petalled flower. No ramrod is fitted, a false rod being simulated on the fore-end by carving. Indented steel trigger-guard. Double-lever hair-trigger

Dimensions:
Barre lLength 1283 mm
Calibre .60 in
Place: Flanders, Antwerp
Date: about 1680
Location: Study Collection
Object number:XII.20
Provenance: Old Tower Collection
https://royalarmouries.org/collection/object/object-218
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Old 22nd June 2024, 07:29 AM   #5
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Default Royal armouries Matchlock target gun - By E. G. Siaens - about 1750

Of similar type to No. XII.18 and 20 but differing in detail and of later date. Barrel of square section at the breech altering to octagonal. Wide, flat backsight pierced with a large aperture and originally fitted with a pivoted plate drilled with a smaller aperture for optional use. The pan retains it's pivoted cover.

Lock with mechanism similar to that fitted to No. XII.16, the lock-plate however being of flintlock shape. It is engraved with the name of the maker E.G. Siaens.

Stock, the butt with cheekpiece on both sides, the large hand-grip carved with rococo scrollwork and foliage in high relief. Brass mounts, the trigger-guard indented for the fingers. Double-lever hair-trigger. Ramrod missing.

Dimensions:
Barrel Length 1067 mm
Overall Length 1502 mm
Calibre: .56 in (26 bore)
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Old 22nd June 2024, 07:36 AM   #6
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Default Royal Armouries Matchlock target gun - By Jacobus Van Oppy Anvers - about1680

Slender octagonal barrel flaring at the muzzle where it is ornamented with flutes. Brass bead foresight and tall V backsight. The Antwerp control mark (a raised left hand, the palm towards the viewer) is stamped on the left at the breech and a barrel forger's mark on the underside. Lock with S shaped match-holder mounted at the rear of the lock plate and working with a forward motion. The mechanism incorporates a mainspring and tumbler of flintlock type the later with a single cocking notch, The pan is mounted on the lockplate and has possessed a pivoted cover now missing. The lockplate is engraved with the name of the maker JACOBUS VAN OPPY ANVERS. There is a projecting grip for the left hand in front of the trigger guard the end of which is missing. The base of the fore-end is carved with a simple design of scrolling foliage. Brass mounts the triggerguard indented for the fingers. Double lever hair-trigger, steel ramrod possibly original.

Dimensions
Overall Height 8 in
Overall Height 210 mm
Overall Length 60 in
Overall Length 1524 mm
Overall Weight 5 kg
Overall Weight 11 lbs
Overall Width 2 in
Overall Width 62 mm
Barrel Length 45 in
Barrel Length 1149 mm
https://royalarmouries.org/collectio...t/object-30707
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Old 22nd June 2024, 07:44 AM   #7
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Default Dutch national museum (Rijksmuseum) Target matchlock 1618

The lock plate has ends in the shape of three leaves. The barrel is of the so-called halber Kistenlauf type, with a breech of square cross-section; the tubular iron rear sight is decorated as a spiral; the sight grain is made of copper; the barrel is partly chiseled with panels, lines, letters and numbers and shows remains of inlaid copper wire, including a diamond with an O and the letters la[..]we[..] flanked by copper incrustation in a zigzag pattern, and the year 1618 flanked by notches. The walnut stock is simply carved and ends at the bottom in a support bobbin with a flower on the sides and at the bottom the remains of an old paper sticker written in ink: This s[?] is fromt a[..] / [.. ]sie; the stock has two cavities on top, one for the shooter's thumb, the other for his hand. The iron fittings consist of a trigger guard that extends into the support spool at the front and has three projections for the fingers, the rear of which is in an S-shape, and of a butt cap with an iron eye soldered to it for hanging the weapon; no provision for a ramrod. The rifle is rusted and dented.

length 191 cm
length barrel 117.3 cm
diameter 14.5 cm
weight 8.6 kg
Purchased from the H.L. Visser Collection, with the support of the Prins Bernhard Cultuurfonds, the Ministerie van OCenW, the Ministerie van Defensie, the VSBfonds, the BankGiro Lottery and the Rijksmuseum Fonds


https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search...G-2002-23-10,1
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Old 22nd June 2024, 07:50 AM   #8
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Default Rijksmuseum Target gun used by the Guild of Arquebusiers in Amsterdam, Jacobus Jasper

The support stand on this target gun is in the form of a taloned eagle’s claw grasping a ball, a reference to the Guild of Arquebusiers in Amsterdam. Civic guardsmen would grasp the support with their left hand, while pressing their left elbow into their side. The gun has a tinder lock, which uses a piece of smouldering dried fungus, rather than a slow match, to ignite the powder.

Target gun or target rudder. The yellow copper lock shows traces of earlier gilding; the lock plate is finished with copper; the pan rests on a base in the shape of a seashell. The barrel is ribbed and grooved on the back; the square trumpet is shaped like a Corinthian column; the sight and grain are made of yellow copper. The stock is inlaid with mother of pearl and carved in relief with foliage, snakes and dolphins; the support bobbin for the trigger guard ends in a bird's claw around a ball that is flattened at the bottom. Apart from the cow horn drawer hood, the fittings are of previously gilded yellow brass and consist of a screw plate engraved with a name, and a butt plate with a spur across the entire handle; the ramrod has an iron cover.

length 163.8 cm
length barrel 124.6 cm
diameter 10.9 mm
weight 6.8 kg
Purchased from the H.L. Visser Collection, with the support of the Prins Bernhard Cultuurfonds, the Ministerie van OCenW, the Ministerie van Defensie, the VSBfonds, the BankGiro Lottery and the Rijksmuseum Fonds



https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search...G-2002-23-14,2
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