Translation Assistance for Moro Kris

SanibelSwassa · 6th March 2023, 04:11 AM

The script could be Arabic or Kavi/Jawi?? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Rick · 6th March 2023, 04:28 AM

This resembles the script inlaid on both sides of the forte of an eagle headed Piso Podang type sabre which I think comes from Northeast Borneo rather than Sumatera.

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pictures added.
Interestingly the script on both sides is connected via a small notch in the edge.
Not meaning to hijack this thread I just saw a resemblance.

Ian · 6th March 2023, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

This resembles the script inlaid on both sides of the forte of an eagle headed Piso Podang type sabre which I think comes from Northeast Borneo rather than Sumatera.

Rick,

Do we have a picture of that piso podang on file here? Would be good to have one for comparison.

Ian.

Ian · 6th March 2023, 04:47 AM

SanibelSwassa,

Beautiful twist core on that blade. Please post a picture of the entire sword.

Cheers,

Ian.

SanibelSwassa · 6th March 2023, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

SanibelSwassa,

Beautiful twist core on that blade. Please post a picture of the entire sword.

Cheers,

Ian.

Ian,

I have them posted in the other thread, but will drop them here also.

Thanks for any help in the translation!!

SanibelSwassa · 6th March 2023, 01:22 PM

Pre-cleanup pic from auction.

Enjoy!!

SS

Ian · 6th March 2023, 01:38 PM

SS,

Thanks for posting those pics again in this topic. The issue is one of keeping our Archives intact for each topic. The posting of a full length picture of the sword is important to place the inscription in context. This is explained in the sticky thread near the top of the Ethno Forum contents page.

BTW, very nice sundang.

Spunjer · 6th March 2023, 02:53 PM

Wow! that cleaned up pretty good! i was going neck to neck with you on this piece, lol.
the Jawi on the stirrup is a plus! if you can't get it translated here, i'll save the pics and take it with me to Baltimore. i might know someone who can translate that over there.

SanibelSwassa · 6th March 2023, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

Wow! that cleaned up pretty good! i was going neck to neck with you on this piece, lol.
the Jawi on the stirrup is a plus! if you can't get it translated here, i'll save the pics and take it with me to Baltimore. i might know someone who can translate that over there.

Ron,

I was seriously jealous over the axe you got, after I saw it in person. Hopefully someone on here has the ability to help! BTW… the oxidation on this piece was so thick that it came off in sheets.

SanibelSwassa · 7th March 2023, 04:27 AM

Better pics of the script.

Again thank for any assistance!!

SS

SanibelSwassa · 9th March 2023, 08:31 PM

Bump.

SanibelSwassa · 15th March 2023, 02:45 PM

Bump…

Any translation help would be greatly appreciated.

SanibelSwassa · 23rd March 2023, 06:14 PM

Bump

SanibelSwassa · 28th July 2023, 06:51 AM

Bump… still looking for help here. I’m completely fine with sharing the pics with outside sources if that gets us closer to translation!!

Ian · 29th July 2023, 08:15 AM

SS,

It's been a while that you have had this one up, and I'm thinking our usual translators are having trouble recognizing the script. You might try PM'ing one or two of the folks who have answered other queries here re Arabic scripts and see if they can help you.

6th March 2023, 04:11 AM	#1
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Translation Assistance for Moro Kris The script could be Arabic or Kavi/Jawi?? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Attached Images

6th March 2023, 04:28 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,294	This resembles the script inlaid on both sides of the forte of an eagle headed Piso Podang type sabre which I think comes from Northeast Borneo rather than Sumatera. edit pictures added. Interestingly the script on both sides is connected via a small notch in the edge. Not meaning to hijack this thread I just saw a resemblance. Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 6th March 2023 at 05:06 AM.

6th March 2023, 04:47 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,207	Pictue of entire sword please SanibelSwassa, Beautiful twist core on that blade. Please post a picture of the entire sword. Cheers, Ian.

6th March 2023, 01:22 PM	#6
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Pre-cleanup pic from auction. Enjoy!! SS Attached Images

7th March 2023, 04:27 AM	#10
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Better pics of the script. Again thank for any assistance!! SS Attached Images

6th March 2023, 01:38 PM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,207	SS, Thanks for posting those pics again in this topic. The issue is one of keeping our Archives intact for each topic. The posting of a full length picture of the sword is important to place the inscription in context. This is explained in the sticky thread near the top of the Ethno Forum contents page. BTW, very nice sundang.

6th March 2023, 02:53 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Wow! that cleaned up pretty good! i was going neck to neck with you on this piece, lol. the Jawi on the stirrup is a plus! if you can't get it translated here, i'll save the pics and take it with me to Baltimore. i might know someone who can translate that over there.

9th March 2023, 08:31 PM	#11
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Bump.

15th March 2023, 02:45 PM	#12
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Bump… Any translation help would be greatly appreciated.

23rd March 2023, 06:14 PM	#13
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Bump

28th July 2023, 06:51 AM	#14
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Bump… still looking for help here. I’m completely fine with sharing the pics with outside sources if that gets us closer to translation!!

29th July 2023, 08:15 AM	#15
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,207	SS, It's been a while that you have had this one up, and I'm thinking our usual translators are having trouble recognizing the script. You might try PM'ing one or two of the folks who have answered other queries here re Arabic scripts and see if they can help you.