Information regarding catalogue 13 May 1993 Ader Tajan

Marcus den toom · 19th July 2022, 05:50 PM

Recently i bought this powder flask which is reference by Michael here as beeing from the Jean Robert Charles collection lot 110 which was sold in 1993. The catalogue were this flask is published was that of the 13th of May 1993 for the Armes et souvenirs historiques by auctioneer Ader Tajan.
Pictures attached of the flask and catalogue i found online (since sold).

Is there anyone that has this catalogue? I would very much like to keep a print of the reference to the provenance of this flask.

Marcus den toom · 19th July 2022, 05:55 PM

Qouting Michael:
"So the author restrained to choose a Nuremberg made powder flask, ca. 1550-60, of circular shape retaining its original leather pouch, and preserved in heavily patinated original condition throughout; it was lot #110 in the first Charles sale of 13 May 1993.
This was the only specimen of that type ever to appear on the market since the Kuppelmayr sale, 26 to 28 March 1895 (!), lot #576, pl. 29.

That unusual type of Nuremberg manufactured flasks is recorded to have only been ordered, and made for, the Styrian arsenal at Graz, which still holds many specimens. In the second half of the 19th c. when the great central museums were founded, the Vienna arsenal and the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum München each were given one sample of that type of flasks from the Graz arsenal, and the Kuppelmayr catalog description records the Graz provenance for that flask."

Marcus den toom · 29th July 2022, 01:21 PM

Attached image of the auction catalogue, copyrighted by Tajan Auctioneers and Bibliothèque de l'Institut national d'histoire de l'art

corrado26 · 30th July 2022, 08:17 AM

Some years ago I also had such a powder flask made in Nürnberg for the Graz Landeszeughaus in my collection.

29th July 2022, 01:21 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 525	Lot 110 catalogue page Attached image of the auction catalogue, copyrighted by Tajan Auctioneers and Bibliothèque de l'Institut national d'histoire de l'art Attached Images

30th July 2022, 08:17 AM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	Some years ago I also had such a powder flask made in Nürnberg for the Graz Landeszeughaus in my collection. Attached Images

19th July 2022, 05:50 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 525	Information regarding catalogue 13 May 1993 Ader Tajan Recently i bought this powder flask which is reference by Michael here as beeing from the Jean Robert Charles collection lot 110 which was sold in 1993. The catalogue were this flask is published was that of the 13th of May 1993 for the Armes et souvenirs historiques by auctioneer Ader Tajan. Pictures attached of the flask and catalogue i found online (since sold). Is there anyone that has this catalogue? I would very much like to keep a print of the reference to the provenance of this flask. Attached Images

19th July 2022, 05:55 PM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 525	Qouting Michael: "So the author restrained to choose a Nuremberg made powder flask, ca. 1550-60, of circular shape retaining its original leather pouch, and preserved in heavily patinated original condition throughout; it was lot #110 in the first Charles sale of 13 May 1993. This was the only specimen of that type ever to appear on the market since the Kuppelmayr sale, 26 to 28 March 1895 (!), lot #576, pl. 29. That unusual type of Nuremberg manufactured flasks is recorded to have only been ordered, and made for, the Styrian arsenal at Graz, which still holds many specimens. In the second half of the 19th c. when the great central museums were founded, the Vienna arsenal and the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum München each were given one sample of that type of flasks from the Graz arsenal, and the Kuppelmayr catalog description records the Graz provenance for that flask."