Go on... show us your Barung!!! - Page 4

pindang · 30th April 2021, 11:34 PM

Hello everyone.

I’m new to the forum, this is my first post. I’ve been collecting barungs for a while, here are a few pics I’d like to share.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

kai · 2nd May 2021, 02:53 AM

Welcome to the forum!

That's a neat collection for a start - especially the series of slender barung which all seem to hail from the first half of the 20th century.

The first looks like an antique blade in recent scabbard; some more pics would be good.

Do you know the maker of the last example?

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 2nd May 2021, 11:29 AM

Also from me a welcome to the forum Pindang!

Nice collection of barungs.

Regards,
Detlef

pindang · 2nd May 2021, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Welcome to the forum!

That's a neat collection for a start - especially the series of slender barung which all seem to hail from the first half of the 20th century.

The first looks like an antique blade in recent scabbard; some more pics would be good.

Do you know the maker of the last example?

Regards,
Kai

Thank you. I’ll post more pics of the first example. Sorry, I don’t know who is the maker of the last piece.

pindang · 2nd May 2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Also from me a welcome to the forum Pindang!

Nice collection of barungs.

Regards,
Detlef

Thank you Sir!

pindang · 3rd May 2021, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Welcome to the forum!

That's a neat collection for a start - especially the series of slender barung which all seem to hail from the first half of the 20th century.

The first looks like an antique blade in recent scabbard; some more pics would be good.

Do you know the maker of the last example?

Regards,
Kai

Kai, here are a few more pics of the first barung.

kai · 5th May 2021, 01:03 AM

Thanks! Another nice example from the first half of the 20th century; the blade seems to be of above-average quality and could be an older, antique piece that got rehilted. The scabbard does seem to show some wear; it clearly exhibits modern craftsmanship though and will be a later replacement.

Quote:

I don’t know who is the maker of the last piece.

This looks much more recent overall. What does the writing on the scabbard say?

Regards,
Kai

pindang · 5th May 2021, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Thanks! Another nice example from the first half of the 20th century; the blade seems to be of above-average quality and could be an older, antique piece that got rehilted. The scabbard does seem to show some wear; it clearly exhibits modern craftsmanship though and will be a later replacement.

This looks much more recent overall. What does the writing on the scabbard say?

Regards,
Kai

Yes, I believe its the newest of the barungs i posted. its someones name and address written on the scabbard.

kronckew · 5th May 2021, 09:51 AM

I'm not overly fond of the coloured electricians tape wraps, it has a bad habit of degenerating and coming loose, and then the glue is weak and doesn't stick to the tape - but sticks aggressively to the wood, staining it & is difficult to remove. I'd remove it and wrap it with rattan, or even string, possibly in colours like the tape, if you like that effect.

kronckew · 5th May 2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

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What does the writing on the scabbard say?
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Kai

looks like the initials D.C. (or P.S.)

pindang · 5th May 2021, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

I'm not overly fond of the coloured electricians tape wraps, it has a bad habit of degenerating and coming loose, and then the glue is weak and doesn't stick to the tape - but sticks aggressively to the wood, staining it & is difficult to remove. I'd remove it and wrap it with rattan, or even string, possibly in colours like the tape, if you like that effect.

Thank you for the tips sir!

xasterix · 10th June 2021, 07:21 PM

Suddenly in love with this "new" barung...

SanibelSwassa · 13th June 2021, 12:33 AM

I believe both of these to be early 1900’s late 1800’s, but would love thoughts as to age. The 2nd is from David’s collection.

Ian · 13th June 2021, 09:35 AM

I would agree with your assessment, with perhaps greater emphasis on late 19th C than early 20th C. Both barung have kakatua hits that occurred in the 19th C, the second one being a junggayan hilt of that period. The second example is a very good barung.

Does the first example have a shandigan blade? It's hard to tell from the pictures.

pindang · 13th June 2021, 07:41 PM

Here are a few barungs from my collection.

kronckew · 14th June 2021, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pindang

Here are a few barungs from my collection.

😀 You only have a few? You need more.

pindang · 14th June 2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

😀 You only have a few? You need more.

I agree sir! 😎😜😊

Ian · 14th June 2021, 06:58 PM

Pindang,

Wow. What a lovely selection of older barung! You said "a few" of your barung. Do you have more of these beauties?

By any chance, do you have pictures of them on a white or lighter background? If so, would you mind posting those? I would like to archive pictures of these (mainly) 19th C examples, and the dark background makes the hilts hard to see.

Congratulations on having such a fine collection of these beautiful blades.

Ian.

pindang · 14th June 2021, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Pindang,

Wow. What a lovely selection of older barung! You said "a few" of your barung. Do you have more of these beauties?

By any chance, do you have pictures of them on a white or lighter background? If so, would you mind posting those? I would like to archive pictures of these (mainly) 19th C examples, and the dark background makes the hilts hard to see.

Congratulations on having such a fine collection of these beautiful blades.

Ian.

Ian,

Yes I have more!

I’ll try and take some pictures for you with a lighter back ground this week.

Have a great day!

Indio_Ira · 8th July 2021, 04:44 AM

Sorry all for the late reply on this.

But had to move across the coast and then work occupied my time.
Here's more photos and specs:

Blade length - 13 1/2inches
Thickness - 3/16
Hilt - close to 6 inches

Total length - 19 inches from tip of the blade and tip of the ivory hilt.

Perhaps that'll help to determine the provenance of it.

Thank you all!

Battara · 9th July 2021, 01:45 AM

This is a nice ivory Maranao barong. I did some restoration work on this. Glad it went to a loving owner!

xasterix · 9th July 2021, 06:07 AM

Among us Filipino collectors, it's Mr pindang that has the most barungs, I'm betting

He has a plethora of them!

Here are my latest barungs...a Sama barung with some initials on the scabbard plate and well-preserved rattan ferrule. 16in blade, hollow ground edge.

Then a barung entrusted to me by Ian, probably the best among my barungs right now...20.75in blade with sandigan edge. Wields really well, but with a beastly momentum on every cut.

Indio_Ira · 9th July 2021, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

This is a nice ivory Maranao barong. I did some restoration work on this. Glad it went to a loving owner!

Thank you sir! I love this Barong. What restoration work did you do?

Ian · 10th July 2021, 01:39 AM

Xas,

You are accumulating quite a collection of barung! I'm pleased you like the shandigan blade. As you say, it is quite a beast and longer than most shandigan. Look forward to hearing how it cuts for you.

kai · 10th July 2021, 01:47 AM

Hello Jose,

Quote:

This is a nice ivory Maranao barong. I did some restoration work on this.

Thanks for confirming! The blade is not easy to evaluate from the limited pics - do you think it also is Maranao or is it a recycled Sulu blade?

Regards,
Kai

Indio_Ira · 10th July 2021, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Jose,

Thanks for confirming! The blade is not easy to evaluate from the limited pics - do you think it also is Maranao or is it a recycled Sulu blade?

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,
Please let me know what other photographs does the forum need to better help identify my blade? I'll be more than happy to take them for everyone so it can be evaluated.

Thanks
Ira

xasterix · 10th July 2021, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indio_Ira

Hello Kai,
Please let me know what other photographs does the forum need to better help identify my blade? I'll be more than happy to take them for everyone so it can be evaluated.

Thanks
Ira

A full-length photograph with the weapon on one side (see mine) would be great

kai · 10th July 2021, 11:09 PM

Hello Ira,

Quote:

Please let me know what other photographs does the forum need to better help identify my blade?

Your pic of the whole piece in post #88 is not bad - a larger pic of the blade would be great (the one in post #110 is taken at an angle): Make sure though to minimize effects of wide angle lenses, especially mobile phone lenses easily result in distorted lines. If available, try a tele lens and keeping the lens exactly vertical above the center of the blade; utilize only the middle of the pic for the part to be shown and later crop the high rez pic; try to keep as much size as well as resolution as possible! (The forum software now accepts quite large pics - more than is stated in the old rules...)

Both sides of the blade, please. And a view on the top (back of the blade) to see the distal taper would be kind. Sometimes a close-up of the base of the blade as well as closer to the tip reveals additional details.

BTW, Jose, did you try to etch this blade? Any laminations?

Barung blades are quite tough to evaluate from pics and handling them gives you much more data for any attribution. Thus, it would be great to hear Jose's thoughts on this blade, too!

Regards,
Kai

Indio_Ira · 11th July 2021, 12:22 AM

Thank you everyone for the guidance.

Here's some additional photos. Please let me know if you guys need more angles.

Once I get a better camera I'll use it when taking photos, for now I'm only using my iPhone.

Thanks
Ira

Battara · 11th July 2021, 05:42 AM

Regarding restoration, I made the ivory tail from scratch and the silver nail that helps keep it in place. Also I re-attached the middle ivory plug on top and refitted the blade and pommel.

Regarding attribution, this style of barong (and especially the okir) are Maranao. There are some other examples (which I would have to look up). It is true that the Maranao are not generally known for their barongs, I think this is a later development, like in the early 20th century. Is the blade Maranao or Sulu? - will have to look into that.

30th April 2021, 11:34 PM	#91
pindang Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 14	Hello everyone. I’m new to the forum, this is my first post. I’ve been collecting barungs for a while, here are a few pics I’d like to share. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Attached Images

10th June 2021, 07:21 PM	#102
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 663	Suddenly in love with this "new" barung... Attached Images

13th June 2021, 12:33 AM	#103
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Only have two so far I believe both of these to be early 1900’s late 1800’s, but would love thoughts as to age. The 2nd is from David’s collection. Attached Images

13th June 2021, 07:41 PM	#105
pindang Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 14	Barungs Here are a few barungs from my collection. Attached Images

8th July 2021, 04:44 AM	#110
Indio_Ira Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 26	Sorry all for the late reply on this. But had to move across the coast and then work occupied my time. Here's more photos and specs: Blade length - 13 1/2inches Thickness - 3/16 Hilt - close to 6 inches Total length - 19 inches from tip of the blade and tip of the ivory hilt. Perhaps that'll help to determine the provenance of it. Thank you all! Attached Images

2nd May 2021, 02:53 AM	#92
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Welcome to the forum! That's a neat collection for a start - especially the series of slender barung which all seem to hail from the first half of the 20th century. The first looks like an antique blade in recent scabbard; some more pics would be good. Do you know the maker of the last example? Regards, Kai

2nd May 2021, 11:29 AM	#93
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,786	Also from me a welcome to the forum Pindang! Nice collection of barungs. Regards, Detlef

5th May 2021, 09:51 AM	#99
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	I'm not overly fond of the coloured electricians tape wraps, it has a bad habit of degenerating and coming loose, and then the glue is weak and doesn't stick to the tape - but sticks aggressively to the wood, staining it & is difficult to remove. I'd remove it and wrap it with rattan, or even string, possibly in colours like the tape, if you like that effect.

13th June 2021, 09:35 AM	#104
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	I would agree with your assessment, with perhaps greater emphasis on late 19th C than early 20th C. Both barung have kakatua hits that occurred in the 19th C, the second one being a junggayan hilt of that period. The second example is a very good barung. Does the first example have a shandigan blade? It's hard to tell from the pictures.

14th June 2021, 06:58 PM	#108
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Pindang, Wow. What a lovely selection of older barung! You said "a few" of your barung. Do you have more of these beauties? By any chance, do you have pictures of them on a white or lighter background? If so, would you mind posting those? I would like to archive pictures of these (mainly) 19th C examples, and the dark background makes the hilts hard to see. Congratulations on having such a fine collection of these beautiful blades. Ian.

9th July 2021, 01:45 AM	#111
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	This is a nice ivory Maranao barong. I did some restoration work on this. Glad it went to a loving owner!

9th July 2021, 06:07 AM	#112
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 663	Among us Filipino collectors, it's Mr pindang that has the most barungs, I'm betting He has a plethora of them! Here are my latest barungs...a Sama barung with some initials on the scabbard plate and well-preserved rattan ferrule. 16in blade, hollow ground edge. Then a barung entrusted to me by Ian, probably the best among my barungs right now...20.75in blade with sandigan edge. Wields really well, but with a beastly momentum on every cut. Attached Images

10th July 2021, 01:39 AM	#114
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Xas, You are accumulating quite a collection of barung! I'm pleased you like the shandigan blade. As you say, it is quite a beast and longer than most shandigan. Look forward to hearing how it cuts for you.

11th July 2021, 12:22 AM	#119
Indio_Ira Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 26	Thank you everyone for the guidance. Here's some additional photos. Please let me know if you guys need more angles. Once I get a better camera I'll use it when taking photos, for now I'm only using my iPhone. Thanks Ira Attached Images

11th July 2021, 05:42 AM	#120
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Regarding restoration, I made the ivory tail from scratch and the silver nail that helps keep it in place. Also I re-attached the middle ivory plug on top and refitted the blade and pommel. Regarding attribution, this style of barong (and especially the okir) are Maranao. There are some other examples (which I would have to look up). It is true that the Maranao are not generally known for their barongs, I think this is a later development, like in the early 20th century. Is the blade Maranao or Sulu? - will have to look into that.