Is this an "old man's hobby"?

[kronckew]

i'm admitting to 65 at the moment.

ignoring the odd pocket knife, i started with buying my sword when i was commissioned in 1968 at 20, closely followed by asking john eck to make me a knife. connecting to the internet a number of years ago has made it easier to acquire new ethnic pretties.

i did have a keen interest in historical fiction and was captain of the new york state university maritime college epee team in my senior year, fencing for the 4 years i spent as a cadet there, which helped prejudice me in favour of sharp pointy things. and bludgeons.

[manteris1]

hi guys, i'm 70,and been collecting for 50yrs......................jimmy

[Dom]

how I've been able to ignore this fantastic post?
I am almost 71, and my passion for weapons and armor back to ...
as far as I can remember when I was really a kid

in my mountains in South-Western France, too many castles, too many legends,
all dating back to the Middle Ages, that's made me a lot dreaming, and even a dreamer
our tradition is to always have in our pocket, our traditional knife, a "Laguiole" I had mine, as gift for my 10 years
then at school, my favorite pastime was to draw; helmets, swords, sabers
my first collection has been constituted of firearms, then, due to hardening regulations and the vagaries of life,
I have sold everything

I restarted to collect edged weapons in the 80's when I went to the Middle East, as x-pat,
since I'm married to an "Arabist" younger than me by 10 years,
who share my passion for Islamic weapons and armor,
she is your translator for your Arabic inscriptions

I've a nephew, here in Egypt (among ... many others )
to who I've offered this year a "short flissa" and
a book (in French) concerning the Islamic edged weapons, he is absolutely crazy for edged weapons ...
to help him to identify the knifes it would have to see

thank you for Atlantia to have initiated this post

à +

Dom

[Maskell]

hi guys, i'm 70,and been collecting for 50yrs......................Jerry

Actually I cut & past Jimmy's reply as my info is exactly the same.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by manteris1

hi guys, i'm 70,and been collecting for 50yrs......................jimmy

Brief and modest as always. Jimmy I have always thought of as the true gentleman collector, and how polite and patient his demeanor always remained in the times we met and talked.
My favorite was the year in Baltimore when he was to deliver a talk on the Ethiopian shotels, but to his chagrin he had sold the examples he had brought for demonstration at the show that day! Truly one of those 'Kodak moments' when he , in his ever gentle manner, asked if there was anyone in the room who had a shotel he could use for a few minutes.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Dom

how I've been able to ignore this fantastic post?
I am almost 71, and my passion for weapons and armor back to ...
as far as I can remember when I was really a kid

in my mountains in South-Western France, too many castles, too many legends,
all dating back to the Middle Ages, that's made me a lot dreaming, and even a dreamer
our tradition is to always have in our pocket, our traditional knife, a "Laguiole" I had mine, as gift for my 10 years
then at school, my favorite pastime was to draw; helmets, swords, sabers
my first collection has been constituted of firearms, then, due to hardening regulations and the vagaries of life,
I have sold everything

I restarted to collect edged weapons in the 80's when I went to the Middle East, as x-pat,
since I'm married to an "Arabist" younger than me by 10 years,
who share my passion for Islamic weapons and armor,
she is your translator for your Arabic inscriptions

I've a nephew, here in Egypt (among ... many others )
to who I've offered this year a "short flissa" and
a book (in French) concerning the Islamic edged weapons, he is absolutely crazy for edged weapons ...
to help him to identify the knifes it would have to see

thank you for Atlantia to have initiated this post

à +

Dom

Dom,
While I feel safe to say we are all a bit romantics and dreamers, you have always seemed to me a true adventurer, and I admire the way you thoughtfully nurture this young mans interest. You do so very much in the way you add your astute observations and wonderfully detailed translation assistance to help us all better understand these weapons.

All the best,
Jim

[Iliad]

Aged 71; started collecting about 12 years ago. Collecting edged weapons seems to be an incurable disease. Is there any way out?
But I have made so many friends!
Brian

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Timo Nieminen

Wot? No weapons?

ITF TKD
Liechtenauer, mostly longsword
Chinese spear
Chinese archery

In the past, foil fencing and SCA heavy if you call those martial arts.

No formal weapons training--mostly just wasters and "test cutting" for fun.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Keep it clean!

lol

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Battara

Wow! Nice! Thank you Andrew.

I did Tae Kwon do once, then Shotokan, then Judo, then Chinese Kenpo, an intro to Winchun and an intro to Arnis/Escrima. I am currently working on American Kenpo (with a small mixture of other stuff).

Also I got started collecting in my mid-twenties right after I got married.

My first piece was a Nazi SA dagger, but soon ditched that and got into pieces from the Philippines (and a few other countries).

Funny how guys like us who "taste" many different styles used to be denigrated--these days, MMA has made it de rigueur.

I still train my core art, and always will, however...

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Martial art's don't get any purer than Fencing!
Makes me wish I still had two ankles made of bone

Agreed.

[A. G. Maisey]

Andrew, may I request a clarification, please?

In your post #100 you tell us that MMA has made the mixing of a number of styles of martial arts "de rigueur".

I am not a martial artist, in fact for a long time I've been a firm believer in the wisdom of Sun Tsu, however I did have a little involvement in some physical combat during my misspent youth, and this has resulted in an ongoing interest in martial arts in general.

It is my understanding that perhaps the most effective art overall is BJJ, with the best foundation for MMA being traditional wrestling --- I won't nominate a particular style, but I feel that possibly greco-roman might be the most effective base, simply because of its artificial restraints, which militate a chess-like approach to competition.

You clearly have a far greater knowledge in this area than do I, as well as the benefit of being an active participant, so do you think you could explain for me how multi skilling in a variety of arts contributes to success in MMA?

I do follow this spasmodically, and from what I can see it is mostly wrestlers with a few added in BJJ skills who have dominated overall, except for the early years when it was all BJJ.

But I do not have your knowledge nor your experience, so perhaps I'm wrong.

This is well and truly off-topic, so if you wish respond privately, or direct me to a website, I'm fine with that.

Thanks, Alan.

[Andrew]

OT martial arts discussion continued here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...730#post148730

[Sunmit]

I am 27 and started seriously collecting about 6 years ago. The cost of antiques is definitely a factor that leaves me just saving photos of things in my wish list folder

To be honest talking to the folks that have been in the indo persian collecting world at shows has been the best part about all of this - being comparatively sort of young I get to hear a lot of awesome stories, suggestions etc from those that have been doing this for than 20+ years.

Definitely cherish meeting everyone once a year at the baltimore show as well, its always an awesome experience.

[spiral]

So in England at least it appears at least a middle aged if not old mans hobby,,

Possibly heading that way in US of A as well...

Some young blood elsewhere is good to see though,

Spiral

[chregu]

hello together
my first piece, bought at a flea market in Rotterdamm. one Madura keris for 90 Gulden.
I was with my parents on vacation in Holand. I was 17 years old, now I'm 45 years
chregu

[olikara]

I'm 37 now.

And to be honest, would not have branched out into collecting edged arms had it not been for this forum and Jim McDougall.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by olikara

I'm 37 now.

And to be honest, would not have branched out into collecting edged arms had it not been for this forum and Jim McDougall.

Hi Olikara,

Collecting can end up being a 'solitary' pursuit, we are often buying at distance, not to mention that we are buying items that are no longer considered mainstream 'collectables'. In fact many dealers and collectors consider them 'offensive weapons'!
Also of course the marketplace can seem a tad 'dog eat dog' at times to say the very least.
It can make collectors isolated and wary.

Even online forums and resources have various types of participants.

The machiavellian traders who exploit the resource without sharing their own knowledge.

The 'timid' or shy collectors who feel uncomfortable in giving opinions that might disagree with others. The occasional contributors.

The 'bread and butter' collectors and dealers who through passion for the field both share their knowledge and recieve help from others. (a good forum will hopefully have a majority of these people, the 'give and take' group)

But there are a few, who simply give.
The true 'researchers'. The historians and seekers whose joy is simply in the quest for knowledge and the opportunity to help and inspire others.
A very rare group in any sphere!

Jim is one of these rare people.
He gives freely of his time, his huge experience and wealth of knowledge never asking anything in return.

How could anyone who is fortunate enough to know 'our' Jim, not be inspired by him?

Our own wandering oracle of wisdom.

[asomotif]

Strange how the mind wanders. It must be old age , and/or the social distancing / mild lock down in my country.

Are there any new "old men" around ? Hence bumping this "old" thread...

Stay safe !

Best regards,
Willem

[JBG163]

29 here !
Started collecting only one years ago, by purchasing a modest keris then a Kora.
But let's say the truth... that a real frenzy thing...

[corrado26]

I'm aged 75, am collecting lots of different things since more than 60 years now and am writing articles for arms magazines more than 40 years.

[Rafngard]

When I first joined this forum 3.5 or so years ago, I meant to post here, but I never got around to it.

39 here, looking at forty later this year. Hopefully the world opens back up before then. Martial arts (and job promotion that came with more disposable income) got me started, the membership of this forum has kept me at it.

I'm grateful to all the old (or not) men (and women) who post here.

Cheers,
Leif

[Will M]

I am 59, ouch! Seems it was just a few years ago I began collecting but it's been decades ago. Mostly British pattern cavalry swords with infantry sneaking in there because swords with provenance are most interesting.
I find militaria shows where I am, Toronto, Ottawa etc. do not draw the percentage of people I would expect, only about 0.01%

[Araña_del_Sol]

I'm 33, been collecting since I was 21

[Athanase]

Hello,
I'm 34 year old.
I started my Indonesian weapons collection with a Mandau from the 1960s in 2013

[Blacksmith]

48 and start collecting indo-persian stuff in 2003 when living in India.Found an old katar in Kathmandu, that was the first piece.Before that I collect finnish puukko- knives, I got my own puukko when I was six years old and in the same summer cut my fore finger badly when carving a wooden ship.Mother was angry with my father but he just said that wounds are part of the learning proces..Well, he was right, dont cut myself anymore after 42 years of learning..So collecting practically whole life.

[kahnjar1]

I see that I last posted to this thread 8 years ago! Time just seems to fly by.
All locked down here for last 4 weeks and we have 2 weeks more to go before things are eased up, so plenty of time to "service" my current collection.
Have been collecting for about 55years and am now a healthy 76.
If membership of our local Antique Arms Assn Branch is anything to go by, then YES it is more an "old man's" hobby. Very few young ones coming thru...............but at least here on the Forum there seem to be new/younger Members to keep things alive.
Keep safe during very tough times.
Stu

[shayde78]

41 years old here. I've had an interest in collecting for as long as I can remember, stretching all the way back to before the turn of the century, back in the 1900s (remember those days when oil cost something per barrel). I've only had the means to indulge my interest and truly start collecting for about 4 years.
I do think the price point for collecting keeps younger folks from getting involved. I think some rigid gender norms around discouraging young girls' interest in weapons keeps women from being well represented in this hobby. However, this forum has a role in breaking down some of these patterns and welcoming everyone with an interest in the subject.
Stay safe and healthy, everyone!

[xasterix]

I'm turning 34 soon. I started collecting modern Filipino blades 2 years ago, but eventually added old blades. The old blades are a wonder to wield and cut with.

[Rafngard]

Originally Posted by xasterix

I'm turning 34 soon. I started collecting modern Filipino blades 2 years ago, but eventually added old blades. The old blades are a wonder to wield and cut with.

Everytime I see one of your cutting videos, I feel inspired.
Once this pandemic is all over, and bottled water is normal price again, I'm going to buy a flat of them, get a couple of my old ones polished/sharpened, and give it a go.

Have fun (since I certainly will),
Leif