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Old 11th August 2019, 08:18 PM   #31
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Indeed! A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.


If it looks like a Yat, walks like a Yat and cuts like a Yat, it's a Yataghan.

Or I'm quackers...(maybe both )

I have a Brass hilted infantry Yataghan with a double edged blade! Both edges sharp as heck too. cross section is a flattened rhombus.
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Old 11th August 2019, 09:44 PM   #32
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I am a bit uneasy with that approach.
European “Yataghans” are not homogenous: one group belongs to rather faithful reproductions of the Ottoman weapon. Recall Labruna workshop in Naples, Manceaux in France, some old Zlatoust replicas.

But Chassepot bayonets are a different kettle of fish. Thehuy borrowed the idea of a recurved blade and attached to them completely foreign handles.

They are industrially manufactured regulation weapons devoid of any personality.

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Old 13th August 2019, 01:26 AM   #33
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Indeed! A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.


If it looks like a Yat, walks like a Yat and cuts like a Yat, it's a Yataghan.

Or I'm quackers...(maybe both )

I have a Brass hilted infantry Yataghan with a double edged blade! Both edges sharp as heck too. cross section is a flattened rhombus.
I think it’s just ignorant and insulting to call what you have a Yataghan! You must be joking! What you have is a joke not a Yataghan)
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Old 13th August 2019, 03:18 AM   #34
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How about lowering voltage?
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Old 13th August 2019, 03:22 AM   #35
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I think Wayne and Kubur were both joking. Let's not get too serious with names. That tends to take us into stormy waters.


P.S. I agree with Ariel. Our posts crossed.
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Old 13th August 2019, 04:07 AM   #36
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How about lowering voltage?
Sorry, I apologize. Didn’t mean to sound rude. I said what I said lightheartedly.
I now see that it came out harsh.

To me Yatagan is a very special weapon that encompasses many characteristics in one place and just because one or some of these characteristics are present in a similar item we can’t sinoly call the two the same name. It’s jusst a specific name for a specific weapon. Like calling a Winchester just a rifle with a barrel or magnum revolver is the same as a berets or something like that.
Again I’m sorry if my voltage went up too high ) didn’t mean to...
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Old 13th August 2019, 09:24 AM   #37
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Apology accepted...

Not every bent knife is a Khukuri either, heck there are 'khukuri' that do not deserve the appellation, they are just KLO - Khukuri-Like Objects.

We here have some YLO

Kalasan, Flyssa, ex-Bayonets Etc. = YLO?

Like most things, there are shades of grey, not black & white.

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