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Someone from another forum advised I stop by here for antique weapon info.
I’ve been collecting polearms for almost a decade. I’ve purchased from retail, like Fagan Arms (ouch! My wallet!), auctions in the U.S., and most recently from Czerny’s in Italy. Communication has been spotty with Czerny’s and only half my auction winnings actually arrived, so... yeah. I’m still learning the photo upload system, but I have attached photos as such in addition to linking to my hosting site: My entryway with polearms displayed currently Older photos showing closeups of some heads Excess/extras in my umbrella stand, stacked in a corner Closeups of newer ones that just arrived from Italy I usually post on gun forums and I use firearms for scale, because everyone over there understands the scale. The pistol in these photos is a CZ75 for reference. So far, the bulk of the collection is as such: Lucerne Hammer, circa 1560, original wood Partisan, likely 17th century Halberd, munitions grade, blackened, low quality, late 16th c. Voulge (I don’t call it a bardiche, but I know why some would) 15th c.(?) Glaive - very likely 19th/20th c. repro (leaned against wall) Voulge - German, mid 15th c. - I suspect a Victorian repro (leaned against wall) Boar spear (umbrella stand) - no supporting info Halberd - still researching, animal figures/shapes (umbrella stand) Fauchard (Glaive) - pictured with CZ75 - Northern Italy circa 1550 Lance - pictured with CZ75 - Italian, mid to late 15th century I travel on business for weeks at a time and can’t get better photos for now. I am a remote worker and limited to an iPad, so resizing and posting photos is an absolute chore. I have two more polearms coming in from Italy soon... I hope. I’m dealing with Italians so anything can happen. On my wish list is a spetum, batwing corseque, and I need to step up my halberd game. I have devised a new polearm display system to be installed after my $3300 lighting install, and I should be able to display 12-14 vertically, as opposed to half that as they are splayed out now. Do let me know if you have any questions. I’ve given up on embedding more photos in the post. It’s incredibly frustrating. The last two, just purchased, as such: Last edited by fernando; 7th June 2019 at 06:51 PM. |
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Nice collection! That’s quite an armoury you have there. I stopped buying from Italy. You must have the patience of a saint.
The thing on the left in the third photo is a Swedish pike with guard m/1697 (they remained in issue until 19thC). |
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I know very little about them except that there are a lot of them on the market compared to other items. |
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Welcome fellow AR15'er. Nice collection.
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Welcome to the forum Guy
![]() ![]() As per rules, we only consider pictures uploaded with our attachment features. To make it easy for you, the first ones you linked from photo hosts were deleted (by me) and reloaded accordingly, now appearing in the end of the thread. PS ... And then i noticed that you posted the said images with both systems ![]() Post re-edited; all is well ![]() Last edited by fernando; 7th June 2019 at 07:00 PM. |
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Glad you joined! This place is a treasure of knowledge. Perhaps someone could chime in about the berdiche-looking weapon.
And that hammer is very interesting. |
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A new shipment of polearms arrived, two from Italy and two halberds from Auctions Imperial. One halberd I quite like, the other one was a waste of money. I think it’s real, it just has minimal... flavor.
I’ll shamelessly use auction photos for some. There’s a bardiche looking weapon that I really hesitate to call a bardiche. I’m going to continue to do research on it, as it certainly has the shape associated with early extant halberds and artistic renditions from the 13th-14th century. As we know from art examples, there was a range of one to three sockets, some some voulge-like examples with capped/long sockets, so attachment method, to me, takes a back seat to blade shape. But, as we know, there were some peasant weapons all the way through the 18th century that used this shape also. Most later examples, however, had a larger gap between blade and shaft. I’ve enclosed a painting from the mid 13th century and an example of a 13th century halberd for comparison. Additionally, I received what appears to be a mid-16th century corseque, although I typically call this a ranseur. Langets shorted, but otherwise a nice example. Also attached is a rather petite but stout Swiss halberd, I’d reckon mid to late 16th century. I rather like it, owing to the short and sturdy spike. Also in view is a rather boring Swiss halberd, shortened haft. I’m running out of space! Hopefully I will have a new gallery hanging system this summer. |
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I’ve engineered a new hanging system, and purchased $2000 in art gallery lighting. I should be able to fit 14 polearms on the walls that currently have only 6... and they’ll be properly lit! The only one I’ve ever considered selling is an American Revolution era pike. Americans don’t do polearms well... we’re better at other weapons... that I also have too many of. ![]() Last edited by BUCC_Guy; 4th July 2019 at 10:58 PM. |
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Congrats on the expanded collection! I particularly like the sturdy Swiss halberd. I have a similar one but with a longer spike and a hook. Don’t despair of the item with the shortened haft as these can be used in displays where the piece of missing haft is concealed by a shield, piece of furniture, etc.
You may consider procuring a rack for your pole arms, the type which they used in castle armouries. These are cool and prevent you from running out of space. |
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This is the shortened halberd. You’re right... I can do lots of things to hide the bottom! It’s just annoying that it’s more effort, but at least it didn’t cost much. |
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Very nice collection!
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For when you move into that house.
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I should have posted mine with the makers mark showing. |
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Makers’ marks make collecting much more interesting, but has frustrations on it’s own. I recognize the mark but can’t recall the name now... The marks on polearms seem less known than swords. This style of halberd is German, which could be just about anywhere in the Germanic lands including Styria (Steiermark). It looks sturdy and the short but thick spike makes it look functional rather than a parade item. I did some research on my halberd. Apart from the shape of the blade you can compare the construction of the socket with museum pieces.
These halberds are Styrian from the Army (Heeresgeschichtliche) Museum in Vienna. I think most identifiable Austrian halberds were made in either Wiener Neustadt or Steyr. Last edited by Victrix; 5th July 2019 at 09:17 AM. |
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Cool collection. Here in the UK Infantry Colour Sergeants carried Halberds like mine below into the late 18c. (2nd/3rd photo).
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Nice collection! Artillery shells can work for display but careful, they get tippy. Wouldn't want them to fall and poleaxe the cat.
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My new lighting and gallery hanging system is nearly finished.
I used plumbing pipe hangers, threaded rod, and an aluminum rail. I can move each holder around whenever I want, and the pipe hangers are hinged for swapping things out. I can’t believe it cost me $4000 to put it together. Glad it is almost done. |
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I like it! I assume the lighting was most of the cost? Have you considered placing the copper and brass pieces outside to allow them to age some? Maybe there is an accelerated chemical aging process that would work?
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"Liver of Sulphur" works even faster & has a nice pleasant aroma your family will love, and it lingers for your future enjoyment. Just a few drops diluted in your wife's favourite sauce pan will endear you to her forever. get the gel version, it lasts longer, the powder version goes off in a few hours exposed to air. If your family is of the rare ones that find the aroma not to their liking, you may want to use it outdoors. ![]() |
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Hello
I always wonder if any of the tridents were used to cut the reins of the enemy rider. There is a model of Spanish spear that has blades to cut reins. Affectionately |
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I thought the copper electroplated hangers would look better than white, black, or silver. They are cast iron with plating, so I don’t think I could patinate them. I can always paint them, though. I’ve got some smaller diameter hangers on the way for the thinner poles. The largest axe head on the cleaver-like voulge likes to swing out and greet you at the door. ![]() I engineered this system myself with materials available, so I know it doesn’t look as clean as a museum setup. More importantly, though, is that it’s removable and adjustable. I could pack it up and move it to a new home if needed. When finished with hangers at both levels and appropriately sized, nothing should move or be... floppy. My main reason for bumping the thread and sharing is that the system may only be a 5 out of 10 on aesthetics, but function is like a 9. If I had fewer weapons, I could twist the bottom hangers at an angle, push them together, and do a fan effect like we see at most US museums. Edit: As you can see from my earlier picture, the lighting system was badly needed! I’ve been talking about doing it for 7 years. I finally did it. |
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