Mandau, it's not! What is it??

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

YW Detlef ..... My source is the people who used them.
As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).

Thank you again Amuk,

I really think that you are very correct by all observations. The sword I've posted seems indeed from very recent manufacture and I think that the coins are similar to the one you have shown, I know this coins from own handling many times before.
The blade is 0,25 Inch (0,6 cm) thick near the handle!
And thank you again for proving a "name" for this type of swords. Do you know also which use was given to this swords?

Regards,
Detlef

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you again Amuk,

...... Do you know also which use was given to this swords?

Regards,
Detlef

Hullo Detlef,

Thanks for your response.(I was just about to go offline )
The isaw was the precursor to the njaboer. It was their implement before they were driven out by the Kajaan/Kenjah. They only got the njaboer after their interaction with the Bandjar while they were in "exile", prior to their returning to assert themselves.

Best,

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Thanks for your response.(I was just about to go offline )
The isaw was the precursor to the njaboer. It was their implement before they were driven out by the Kajaan/Kenjah. They only got the njaboer after their interaction with the Banjar while they were in "exile", prior to their returning to assert themselves.

Hello Amuk,

Great given informations! Thank you again!

Regards,
Detlef

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Amuk,

Great given informations! Thank you again!

Regards,
Detlef

Hullo Detlef,

YW.
Glad it is of some use to you.

Tschau,

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Willem,

Thank you for posting the link. This seems to confirm that there are real antique examples in collections.

Sorry, but the overall brown patina on this example is not my idea of "real antique"
Same goes for the hacksaw markings.

I am going to leave this discussion now.

Best regards,
Willem

[kai]

Hello Willem,

I assume that Detlef refers to AM’s linked thread rather than the pics hosted on the other linked site. AM’s pic does not show much detail but seems to be a younger example by his own definition?

Any really old example available - pics, anyone?

Regards,
Kai

[Albert]

In the collection of the Dallas Museum of Art is a similar sword.
See one of the photos on https://www.artoftheancestors.com/borneo.
Unfortunately, I don't have any additional information on this sword, not even an inventory number.

[Ian]

Hello Albert. Always good to hear from you and thanks for the link. Here is the sword that you referred to. A very nice example of the style.



Ian.


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[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Ian

Hello Albert. Always good to hear from you and thanks for the link. Here is the sword that you referred to. A very nice example of the style.

Ian.
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Dear Ian,

Is there a link to more info regarding provenance / age / where collected ?

Best regards,
Willem

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

I assume that Detlef refers to AM’s linked thread rather than the pics hosted on the other linked site.

No, Detlef refers to the link was given from Willem. But he have seen it only on his smartphone and don't look again to the sword on a pc screen again and and have overlooked the ironic comment from Willem and may have been still under shock from a heavy car accident he have had a few days before. Sorry about any confusion! Of course he agree complete with Willem!

[Ian]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Dear Ian,

Is there a link to more info regarding provenance / age / where collected ?

Best regards,
Willem

Unfortunately not. There is nothing to describe this sword on the site that Albert referenced.
Ian.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

YW Detlef As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).

Yes, you are correct regarding the coins, here some pictures from the attached coins.