Viking Sword in Norway: Lost & Found ?

Rick · 12th September 2017, 01:51 AM

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/wonde...cid=spartandhp

mariusgmioc · 12th September 2017, 04:59 PM

It looks too good to be true to me.

Wouldn't want it in my collection as it has too many question marks attached.

Will M · 12th September 2017, 05:20 PM

I think the lack of centuries of corrosion tells it all.

Rick · 12th September 2017, 07:06 PM

But what if it had been in a glacial mass and had just melted out 100 years ago.
They're finding bodies in the Alps from 50 years ago or older these days; Iceman etc.
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...08760/page/0/1

mariusgmioc · 12th September 2017, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

But what if it had been in a glacial mass and had just melted out 100 years ago.
They're finding bodies in the Alps from 50 years ago or older these days; Iceman etc.
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...08760/page/0/1

Even IF... then why isn't it together with the scales? Why would be the grip completely rotten away and the tang beneath almost intact? The very same process that consumed the scales, should have left its bite on the tang as well. At least that's my theory.

It may be a genuine find but... too many question marks for me.

David · 4th October 2017, 06:33 PM

I was skeptical at first, but it is being considered genuine by Norwegian archeologist and has been written up in reasonably legitimate publications.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/09/14...gian-mountains
I'm not sure why you chose to post this in the miscellania section though. Seems like a good regular topic, especially for a website called Vikingsword.

silberschatzimsee · 4th October 2017, 09:08 PM

https://www.khm.uio.no/english/resea...ord_lesja.html

Here the official link with xrays and stuff

Lee · 6th October 2017, 12:45 PM

If that Viking sword just "showed up" in the antiques market, I'd be strongly inclined to dismiss it as a forgery. Known provenance and technical examination may be able to firmly establish its authenticity and exclude a hoax propelled by wishful thinking.

silberschatzimsee · 6th October 2017, 08:09 PM

I think that guy died there and maybe because of glaciers the sword moved to that position over the centuries.

silberschatzimsee · 6th October 2017, 08:16 PM

Or it was a joke from the localpub crew in 1900 for later people. Same like the famous Piltdown Man

David · 6th October 2017, 08:30 PM

It does seem from what i read that museums and archeologists are taking it rather seriously in Norway and do in fact consider it the real thing. At least none of the articles i have read suggest that it is a forgery.

I am going to add the words "Viking Sword" to the title to better attract the attention of other members.

Lee · 6th October 2017, 10:44 PM

Our 'local' variant of such a 19th century hoax was the Cardiff Giant. I have seen it and it is not at all convincing.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 7th October 2017, 01:57 AM

I think technology has advanced somewhat since 1869 however, I thought that was a fascinating story and well worth placing here... My point being that Norwegian Archaeology specialists are crediting this as genuine and presumably have run their special high tech tests to prove that~ thus are we not perhaps rather pre judging the issue ? My ex Mother in Law is 12 feet long!

Rick · 7th October 2017, 02:36 AM

Interesting about the differing ages of the blade and the cross guard.
I wonder if it might have been an heirloom incorporated with the newer blade for talismanic purposes.

This guy says it's real.

silberschatzimsee · 7th October 2017, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Our 'local' variant of such a 19th century hoax was the Cardiff Giant. I have seen it and it is not at all convincing.

Hahaha

Quote:

My point being that Norwegian Archaeology specialists are crediting this as genuine and presumably have run their special high tech tests to prove that

Piltdown Man fooled the specialists for 50 years

No like i mentioned i believe the previous owner got lost, died in some snowstorm and the sword was moved by ice and erosion to its last position.

12th September 2017, 01:51 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Viking Sword in Norway: Lost & Found ? http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/wonde...cid=spartandhp

12th September 2017, 07:06 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	But what if it had been in a glacial mass and had just melted out 100 years ago. They're finding bodies in the Alps from 50 years ago or older these days; Iceman etc. http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...08760/page/0/1 Last edited by Rick; 12th September 2017 at 08:46 PM.

7th October 2017, 02:36 AM	#14
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Interesting about the differing ages of the blade and the cross guard. I wonder if it might have been an heirloom incorporated with the newer blade for talismanic purposes. This guy says it's real. Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 7th October 2017 at 03:16 AM.

12th September 2017, 04:59 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	It looks too good to be true to me. Wouldn't want it in my collection as it has too many question marks attached.

12th September 2017, 05:20 PM	#3
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 391	I think the lack of centuries of corrosion tells it all.

4th October 2017, 06:33 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,113	I was skeptical at first, but it is being considered genuine by Norwegian archeologist and has been written up in reasonably legitimate publications. http://www.torontosun.com/2017/09/14...gian-mountains I'm not sure why you chose to post this in the miscellania section though. Seems like a good regular topic, especially for a website called Vikingsword.

4th October 2017, 09:08 PM	#7
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	https://www.khm.uio.no/english/resea...ord_lesja.html Here the official link with xrays and stuff

6th October 2017, 12:45 PM	#8
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 913	If that Viking sword just "showed up" in the antiques market, I'd be strongly inclined to dismiss it as a forgery. Known provenance and technical examination may be able to firmly establish its authenticity and exclude a hoax propelled by wishful thinking.

6th October 2017, 08:09 PM	#9
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	I think that guy died there and maybe because of glaciers the sword moved to that position over the centuries.

6th October 2017, 08:16 PM	#10
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	Or it was a joke from the localpub crew in 1900 for later people. Same like the famous Piltdown Man

6th October 2017, 08:30 PM	#11
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,113	It does seem from what i read that museums and archeologists are taking it rather seriously in Norway and do in fact consider it the real thing. At least none of the articles i have read suggest that it is a forgery. I am going to add the words "Viking Sword" to the title to better attract the attention of other members.

6th October 2017, 10:44 PM	#12
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 913	Our 'local' variant of such a 19th century hoax was the Cardiff Giant. I have seen it and it is not at all convincing.

7th October 2017, 01:57 AM	#13
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	I think technology has advanced somewhat since 1869 however, I thought that was a fascinating story and well worth placing here... My point being that Norwegian Archaeology specialists are crediting this as genuine and presumably have run their special high tech tests to prove that~ thus are we not perhaps rather pre judging the issue ? My ex Mother in Law is 12 feet long!