Maghreb Flask and Quran Box

[kahnjar1]

Just picked these two items up as "a pair". The flask is I think Algerian and the Quran Box (described as seems usual as a "Bullet Box") likely from the same region.
Comments welcome, and also can anyone translate the back panels of the Quran Box please?
Stu

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Salaams Khanjar 1 ~ The box with the script sees a repeat pattern on the lid and on the main body of the same writing...which appear to be various incantations to God... I have a Moroccan on the team who will confirm this later... meanwhile excellent photographs ...

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Taking the lid writing from the top as...Allah Mohammed Rasul Allah and in the square box ~ The 4 corners decorated in geometric figure 5 hand of Fatima geometry. The top row second square says Bismillah. The second row first square says Al Rehman. The central square repeats what is on the lid except for a strange crossed X which we dont understand...maybe a mistake? The second row 3rd square says Allah.The 3rd row second square also says Allah.

I hope that is sufficient.

[Kubur]

They are blessing for the bullets, in the bullet box

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Taking the lid writing from the top as...Allah Mohammed Rasul Allah and in the square box ~ The 4 corners decorated in geometric figure 5 hand of Fatima geometry. The top row second square says Bismillah. The second row first square says Al Rehman. The central square repeats what is on the lid except for a strange crossed X which we dont understand...maybe a mistake? The second row 3rd square says Allah.The 3rd row second square also says Allah.

I hope that is sufficient.

Thank you Ibrahiim. I suspected that it would be just "words" or maybe short quotes from the Quran. Seems to be the former.
Stu

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

They are blessing for the bullets, in the bullet box

You sure about that? This is a Quran holder, not a bullet box..........

[motan]

Hi Kahnjar1. Missed this post somehow. One thing others have failed to mention is that these objects, whether bullet box or Koraan box, are beautiful and seem to have some age too. The hangers on the box show resemblance to those of Koummyas and unlike anything Algerian I have seen, so I would opt for Moroccan origin.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by motan

Hi Kahnjar1. Missed this post somehow. One thing others have failed to mention is that these objects, whether bullet box or Koraan box, are beautiful and seem to have some age too. The hangers on the box show resemblance to those of Koummyas and unlike anything Algerian I have seen, so I would opt for Moroccan origin.

I agree with you on Moroccan although the two styles are remarkably similar ...and since they are close neighbours. The Algerian form seems to use polychrome enamel and a comparison in general terms may be seen at https://en.expertissim.com/quran-box...ntury-12227041 ... Anyway when I was in Morocco I saw several items like this...
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by motan

Hi Kahnjar1. Missed this post somehow. One thing others have failed to mention is that these objects, whether bullet box or Koraan box, are beautiful and seem to have some age too. The hangers on the box show resemblance to those of Koummyas and unlike anything Algerian I have seen, so I would opt for Moroccan origin.

Hi Eytan,
It was the flask I was referring to as Algerian, though of course the countries are side by side. Elgood attributes these flasks to Algeria though the hangers as you mention are typical of Moroccan style as seen on the Koumyya. Although as mentioned above, the seller called these "a pair" they very possibly are not.
Stu