26th July 2016, 12:43 AM | #1 |
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Indian? Looks Arabian
The knives in these links from the Met Mesuem;
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/31631 http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/31635 They call them Indian or Nepalese...other than a loose form of Kukri blade, I cannot see this as an origin. As these came from Stone, "Bequest of George C. Stone, 1935", did Stone have notes pointing to these actually being sourced from India or Nepal as well? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12004 Steve makes some good points in post 3 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/search...earchid=622385 A list of Shafra threads from the search engine. Gavin |
26th July 2016, 01:42 AM | #2 |
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Indisputable Aravian Shafra ( AKA Kusha)
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100 % Shafra...Arabian.
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26th July 2016, 04:43 PM | #5 |
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See Stone's Glossary, Figure 459, Miscellaneous Knives: "9. Nepal.Incurved, single-edged blade. Engraved silver hilt".
The Met's description undoubtedly reflects Stone's records. That identification, in turn, almost certainly arose from the very unequivocal, but erroneous, attribution in Egerton's Indian and Oriental Arms and Armour: Last edited by Berkley; 26th July 2016 at 05:05 PM. |
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27th July 2016, 09:50 AM | #7 |
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One with an inscription, hardly looks Nepalese....
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27th July 2016, 09:58 AM | #8 |
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Yes but it could be Indo-Arabs as the swords discussed previously.
Oman/Pakistan/Balutchistan... I'm not a specialist, but i think these safra are a little bit too nice to be just companion knifes... This link will be useful too http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=safra For me a companion knife is attached to the back of the main scabbard and main dagger. These Safra are knifes. By the way are they Yemeni or Omani??? Best, Kubur Last edited by Kubur; 27th July 2016 at 10:14 AM. |
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Another thread with relevance to Gavin's initial post: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6355
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I recall a very nice Shabriya from Yemen at the opener on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=shibriya and later down the page an example of the project weapon ..
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just to muddy the waters, looks like a more ancient blade shape.
roman utility knife: 2nd, more on display in museum. Last edited by kronckew; 30th July 2016 at 09:46 AM. |
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