Rare Mughal Dagger

Jens Nordlunde · 28th November 2015, 04:45 PM

If I have to be honest - I dont have a clue either. Strange how many people know what the technique means, but very few know how it is done.

Have a look here.
http://www.gemologyonline.com/Forum/...pic.php?t=1754

I just saw this.
http://blog.mirraw.com/2012/09/18/wh...undan-jewelry/

So there seem to be different oppinions of how it was done.

Battara · 28th November 2015, 08:47 PM

After reading both, I lean towards the first one. Makes more sense, although I have a rough time believing that some amount of heat is not needed.

Jens Nordlunde · 28th November 2015, 10:06 PM

Yes, I too believe more in the first version.
My mothers sisters could, like my mother, do anything they wanted with their hands, as they were all very gifted. One painted porcelain, and I remember at one time, that I saw her guild the edge of a plate. She took a piece of very fine gold foil, 'blowing in the wind so to say', cut it to the right size, put it on the edge and burnished it with an agate stone – and is was as if it had been nailed to the plate – well nailed and nailed, but I think you know what I mean. It became part of the porcelain, and she said that it would not go away unless it was worn off.
As an afterthought, I have been wondering why I did not think of this before, but it was maybe sixty years or more ago. Menory is sometimes a funny thing.

28th November 2015, 04:45 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	If I have to be honest - I dont have a clue either. Strange how many people know what the technique means, but very few know how it is done. Have a look here. http://www.gemologyonline.com/Forum/...pic.php?t=1754 I just saw this. http://blog.mirraw.com/2012/09/18/wh...undan-jewelry/ So there seem to be different oppinions of how it was done. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 28th November 2015 at 05:07 PM.

28th November 2015, 08:47 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	After reading both, I lean towards the first one. Makes more sense, although I have a rough time believing that some amount of heat is not needed.

28th November 2015, 10:06 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes, I too believe more in the first version. My mothers sisters could, like my mother, do anything they wanted with their hands, as they were all very gifted. One painted porcelain, and I remember at one time, that I saw her guild the edge of a plate. She took a piece of very fine gold foil, 'blowing in the wind so to say', cut it to the right size, put it on the edge and burnished it with an agate stone – and is was as if it had been nailed to the plate – well nailed and nailed, but I think you know what I mean. It became part of the porcelain, and she said that it would not go away unless it was worn off. As an afterthought, I have been wondering why I did not think of this before, but it was maybe sixty years or more ago. Menory is sometimes a funny thing.