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Old 23rd August 2011, 08:43 PM   #1
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Hello, I recall seeing a golden handled kukri a week ago and if I am not mistaken it ended last night. Unfortunately, I was out of town, I was not able to watch it end or even cast my lowly bid. Can some one provide me a link to it or just the ebay item number. Really appreciate it. Thanks again, Chris
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Old 23rd August 2011, 11:42 PM   #2
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Hello, I recall seeing a golden handled kukri a week ago and if I am not mistaken it ended last night. Unfortunately, I was out of town, I was not able to watch it end or even cast my lowly bid. Can some one provide me a link to it or just the ebay item number. Really appreciate it. Thanks again, Chris
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370535263773...84.m1423.l2649
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Old 23rd August 2011, 11:46 PM   #3
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Here are the other pictures for our archives. I believe it to be North Indian with gold over copper. Notice the second edge on top of the blade. It went for $1900!
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Old 23rd August 2011, 11:49 PM   #4
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Thank you so much Lew for attaching the link.
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Old 24th August 2011, 03:56 AM   #5
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I put in a last few seconds bid that wasn't even close. I think that the blade may well be wootz. Agree or disagree? Steve
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Old 24th August 2011, 02:00 PM   #6
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Maybe but for that price let's hope so.
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Old 24th August 2011, 02:51 PM   #7
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Probably the only non-muslim weapon I really wanted.
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Old 25th August 2011, 04:42 AM   #8
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Stunning and unique piece!

I see the under bidder is a member of our community, perhaps he'll be prepared to share more?

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Old 25th August 2011, 05:53 AM   #9
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Unhappy Here is a similar Khukuri

Gav I wasn't even close but, felt it's rarity deserved a go. I'm reminded of this one. http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=4373. Sorry at the moment having just switched to Win 7 I'm unable to add a photo. Steve
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Old 25th August 2011, 06:00 AM   #10
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Gav I wasn't even close but, felt it's rarity deserved a go. I'm reminded of this one. http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=4373. Sorry at the moment having just switched to Win 7 I'm unable to add a photo. Steve
Indeed Archer, well worth a go, I would have bid too but a couple of Pata and tribal purchases left me short this week.
Another however pushed the envelope to the enth degree and nearly got it, I'd be interested to know more on his thoughts....still a bargain too in my opinion.
I have of course left him un-named in case he wished to remain anon.


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Old 25th August 2011, 06:18 PM   #11
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A great piece. I missed seeing this one. I hope the new owner will show more pics
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Old 25th August 2011, 07:13 PM   #12
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wow what a kukri.

the seller seems to think the fittings are brass? But surely looks to be gold.

Whats up with the blade along the spine? has a style i havent seen before, the pics arent clear but looks like almost liked its double edged?

one of a kind no doubt, would love to hear what spiral thinks of this one?
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Old 26th August 2011, 12:58 AM   #13
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The spine is a T-spine until you get to the second edge on the back. Yes a unique piece. Indian versions of the kukri are various.
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Old 26th August 2011, 12:04 PM   #14
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one of a kind no doubt, would love to hear what spiral thinks of this one?

Lovely piece, Looks gilt on thick brass to me, as Battara says clearly Indian, nicley forged T spine, must be from between 1875 to 1930 I would think, interesting hanging loop for wall hanging, {should be two, with chain between.} Ive normaly seen that on 20th century pieces.

Apart from kaudi bieng in existance not that much Hindu symbolism. I wonder if it could be a Sikh piece?

Definatly a prestigious kukri,though!

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Old 26th August 2011, 12:51 PM   #15
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interesting hanging loop for wall hanging, {should be two, with chain between.} Ive normaly seen that on 20th century pieces.

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G'day Spiral,

I have a very different point of view with regards to this segment of your comment, definately not for wall hanging.
This is likely by geography, anywhere from Bengal territories to the Dehli Sultinate...in my opinion likely western regions of the Dehli Sultinate and a personal side arm of an important individual who had relations with the northern borders.
The single loop aspect is also pure Indian as per the images attached and note the daggers in figures 215, 216, 221, 222 & 224 of Arts of the Muslim Knight.


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Old 26th August 2011, 05:36 PM   #16
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Excelent info & examples Gav!

Had not seen the single loop feature on a kukri before. What is its purpose?

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Old 26th August 2011, 10:11 PM   #17
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Excelent info & examples Gav!

Had not seen the single loop feature on a kukri before. What is its purpose?

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A good question mate.

I have not seen any period paintings close enough but I suspect, as these weapons all appear to be sash mounted, that it was for a safety chain.
Fig 215 quoted above shows a small silver loop chain, perhaps the sash was fed through this loop before being wrapped on the body.
Other suggestions , a decorative or votive charm might have been hung from here....but I think a safety chain/loop....who wants to drop anything on the run.....

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Old 27th August 2011, 01:53 AM   #18
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That Sounds logical Gav, Any chance of a scan of fig.215 as I dont have that reference work? If you have the time of course, emails cool.

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Old 27th August 2011, 07:44 AM   #19
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That Sounds logical Gav, Any chance of a scan of fig.215 as I dont have that reference work? If you have the time of course, emails cool.

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Sure thing, I should have some time to shoot one across later this weekend along with better images of the large Chirra presntation Kukri.

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Don't forget to post those here.........
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Old 28th August 2011, 06:19 PM   #21
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Stunning Piece! Lovely to see
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Old 29th August 2011, 01:04 AM   #22
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Sure thing, I should have some time to shoot one across later this weekend along with better images of the large Chirra presntation Kukri.

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Thats cool Gav,Look forward to it , it would be cool if we can work out the "history" of the dia chira kukri & the origins of its inscriptions between us. I suspect micrometers will also help!

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Old 7th September 2011, 11:08 PM   #23
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Here are the other pictures for our archives. I believe it to be North Indian with gold over copper. Notice the second edge on top of the blade. It went for $1900!
It sure is a looker, but why the second edge? That has me puzzled.
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Old 19th July 2014, 11:29 AM   #24
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It sure is a looker, but why the second edge? That has me puzzled.
Sorry for my slow repley , just came across this thread while researching something....

In one word.

Stabbing!

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Old 19th July 2014, 12:40 PM   #25
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Stabbing indeed Spiral.

I have had great honour in handling many fine and rare Kukri as many of you know and I hope the owner doesn't mind me saying say but this example is the best Kukri I ever handled in form, contruction and quality.
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Old 19th July 2014, 01:00 PM   #26
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Indeed Gav!

It certainly looks a quality piece... Only one bit , I don't like, that of the blade riccaso extending below the hilt line.

Both aesthetically & practically that seems unnecessary to me.

But Id gladly home it for further study!

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Indeed Gav!

It certainly looks a quality piece... Only one bit , I don't like, that of the blade riccaso extending below the hilt line.

Both aesthetically & practically that seems unnecessary to me.

But Id gladly home it for further study!

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Certainly a non traditional point you note but it does flow through there...and in all honesty, after seeing the thread surface again, I can say the photos do not do the piece justice..not in the slightest.
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Old 19th July 2014, 07:14 PM   #28
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Sounds good Gav! Any idea of its weight & balance point?

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Old 20th July 2014, 02:46 AM   #29
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I haven't weighed it J but the balance point is just in front of the handle.
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Old 20th July 2014, 07:22 AM   #30
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