OMG It's another Kukri..... Am I infected with the bug?

Atlantia · 27th February 2011, 03:11 PM

No, not exactly, I just can't turn down a bargain.
This came my way recently, a type I would like to learn more about.
Scabbard is from a Kuk I bought which had the wrong scabbard on it, which happens to fit this one much better.

Kuk has no markings, single large fuller, interesting tang that exits on back of hilt (see pics).

Can anyone shed any light on the finer nuances of this particular beastie, Later 19th C?

Lew · 27th February 2011, 07:09 PM

I'm no expert but since the curve on the spine is continous I would think 19th century.

Atlantia · 27th February 2011, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew

I'm no expert but since the curve on the spine is continous I would think 19th century.

Thanks Mate.
These aren't something that I usually venture much cash on (well, apart from that beautiful one with the double fuller), but this one seemed an interesting type and at the price of a evening in the pub!
I think th short tang is an early indicator as well....

Hopefully Spiral or one of the kuk-folk will know more.

Thanks
Gene

A.alnakkas · 27th February 2011, 08:37 PM

Beautiful Kukri! hmmm tempting me to venture in Kukri's...

Atlantia · 27th February 2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Beautiful Kukri! hmmm tempting me to venture in Kukri's...

Thanks mate

You should come for a holiday, England's full of them

Gavin Nugent · 28th February 2011, 03:44 AM

Nice form, nice fullers.

Gav

Titus Pullo · 28th February 2011, 06:18 AM

Very nice piece! What origin of ethnicity is it?

Atlantia · 28th February 2011, 09:13 AM

Thanks Gav

Titus,
It's from Nepal (originally).
There are a lot of them in England because of our long 'association' with that part of the world.

spiral · 28th February 2011, 11:41 AM

well done G.

your doing well! lovely shape & style to that piece, with a well made military style longleaf angh khola blade. Probably made late 19th or early 20th century {pre.ww1.}

Id suspect this one to be Indian made, but could be mistaken.

Id guess blades about 14 inches? Whats it weigh?

spiral

Atlantia · 28th February 2011, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

well done G.

your doing well! lovely shape & style to that piece, with a well made military style longleaf angh khola blade. Probably made late 19th or early 20th century {pre.ww1.}

Id suspect this one to be Indian made, but could be mistaken.

Id guess blades about 14 inches? Whats it weigh?

spiral

Ello Mate.

LOL!!!!! Blade is 14". Some guess mate

Thanks for coming in on this one.
Here's a shot of it next to the slightly smaller presentation kuk I got recently.
The presentation one weighs 430g, the larger one is 590g.
It feels a lot heavier in-hand. The back spine is a meaty 11mm.

Could you explain "longleaf angh khola blade"?
Remember I'm entirely ignorant of the terminology of these beasties!

Indian made is fine with me

Do you think that the scabbard suits it? I have a feeling it wasn't original to that other kuk?

Best
Gene

kronckew · 28th February 2011, 11:37 PM

ang khola means one fuller near the spine, really means 'back valley'

there are dui chirra (two fullers), like your other khukuri,

and tin chirra (three fullers)

i've not heard of any higher no. of fullers...

Atlantia · 1st March 2011, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

ang khola means one fuller near the spine, really means 'back valley'

there are dui chirra (two fullers), like your other khukuri,

and tin chirra (three fullers)

i've not heard of any higher no. of fullers...

Thanks mate

Lovely selection of beasties you've got there!

'Back valley' made me giggle in a rather childish way...

Any idea what the wood is on the hilt of mine?
Strangely fibrous compared to the other kuks I've got.
Best
gene

kronckew · 1st March 2011, 02:01 PM

they were examples taken from a google image search, i don't have an ang khola khukuri, tho i do suffer occasionally from exposing my own ang khola.

hard to find good photos that show the fullers. the ang khola is an HI Angkhola with neem wood grip, the dui chirra is an HI 'foxy folly' model - i need one of these - and the last is a Tora Tin Chirra. (Tora and HI, Himalayan Imports, are the premier modern khukuri suppliers. Tora is UK based (run by one of our members in fact), HI is USA based. HI models tend to be more westernized & utilitarian and Tora's are more traditional and martial, tho they overlap. another player, khukuri house, tends to have a bit less quality control, and makes up for lower prices by high shipping costs)

my own khukuri: (plus 1 KLO*)
(*- khukuri-like object)
top is a laminated steel kopis repro. for comparison.
dui chirra officers model (Tora mk III)
H.I. Kobra
Tora WW1 Model
Antique early 20c, nepali armoury markings

Atlantia · 1st March 2011, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

they were examples taken from a google image search, i don't have an ang khola khukuri, tho i do suffer occasionally from exposing my own ang khola.

hard to find good photos that show the fullers. the ang khola is an HI Angkhola with neem wood grip, the dui chirra is an HI 'foxy folly' model - i need one of these - and the last is a Tora Tin Chirra. (Tora and HI, Himalayan Imports, are the premier modern khukuri suppliers. Tora is UK based (run by one of our members in fact), HI is USA based. HI models tend to be more westernized & utilitarian and Tora's are more traditional and martial, tho they overlap. another player, khukuri house, tends to have a bit less quality control, and makes up for lower prices by high shipping costs)

my own khukuri: (plus 1 KLO*)
(*- khukuri-like object)
top is a laminated steel kopis repro. for comparison.
dui chirra officers model (Tora mk III)
H.I. Kobra
Tora WW1 Model
Antique early 20c, nepali armoury markings

Nice selection you've got bud

I'm actually beginning to see why people like these

kronckew · 2nd March 2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

...
I'm actually beginning to see why people like these

you are starting on the slippery slope, the khukuri collection virus has started to claim another victim

there is no known cure. tho the symptoms can be delayed or lessened by buying more sharp pointy things of all sorts, of course you suffer less if you buy another khukuri. like pringles, you can't just have one.

Atlantia · 2nd March 2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

you are starting on the slippery slope, the khukuri collection virus has started to claim another victim

there is no known cure. tho the symptoms can be delayed or lessened by buying more sharp pointy things of all sorts, of course you suffer less if you buy another khukuri. like pringles, you can't just have one.

LOL!!! Is it a 'slipery slope' or more of a downward 'Spiral'?
(boom-boom)

Norman McCormick · 2nd March 2011, 07:09 PM

Hi Gene,
A nice kukri is always a joy.
Regards,
Norman.

Atlantia · 2nd March 2011, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Gene,
A nice kukri is always a joy.
Regards,
Norman.

Oh Norman!
Thats a beauty.
Do tell us about its origins?

mrwizard · 2nd March 2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

LOL!!! Is it a 'slipery slope' or more of a 'Spiral'?

Atlantia · 2nd March 2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrwizard

Nice!

Whats the story on the one on the bottom right?

mrwizard · 2nd March 2011, 09:35 PM

I'm afraid there is not much of a story.
The blade is a chainpure ang khola and the horn hilt and horn scabbard with inlays indicate a Dhankute origin.
It is not old. Made within the last 20 years, i think.
However, it is not the typical tourist quality. Very well executed blade and balanced for speed. My guess is that
it was intended as a representative/decorative piece for the nepalese middle class.

Norman McCormick · 4th March 2011, 08:32 PM

Hi Gene,
Info about the Kukri as requested. Made around 1900 or slightly later probably in Himal Pradech a traditional centre of Kukri manufacture lying between the Garhwalis and Jammu and Kasmir peoples. The decoration may have done by a goldsmith rather than a Kami (smith), the sun and moon mark probably represents Surya (sun) and Chandra (moon) the male and female aspects and in Bhuddist culture representing wisdom and compassion. The "palm frond" symbol is unknown. I have to thank Spiral, Andreas Volk and Runjeet Singh of Akaal Arms for the aforementioned information.
My Regards,
Norman.

spiral · 5th March 2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

LOL!!! Is it a 'slipery slope' or more of a downward 'Spiral'?
(boom-boom)

The slippery slope feeling is very early stage of the khukriitus infection, when you reach the end of that slope its usual to go through a wobbly stage of consolidating with obvious weight loss followed by the later stage development of finding those pieces you really ,really need & simply must have. This actualy feels like an ascending spiral feeling, what the final stages of this infamous disease are I havent yet discovered , although I have my suspicions.

Not sure what that timber is, but have seen it on many khukri handles including some WW2 mk 2 pattern pieces.

Spiral

carlitobrigante · 5th March 2011, 06:14 PM

gorgeous kukris in this thread, and the one in the original post is lovely, nice form, bet its lovely to wield. I prefer these single fullered ones to the types of Kukri blades both to look at and to use.

heres my ang khola

A.alnakkas · 5th March 2011, 07:33 PM

Is it normal to suddenly fall inlove in an item that basically have nothing to do with your main interest?! :P

mrwizard · 5th March 2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Is it normal to suddenly fall inlove in an item that basically have nothing to do with your main interest?! :P

The virus is spreading...
Maybe one of the mods should quarantine this thread

Rick · 5th March 2011, 11:06 PM

Even Keris Collectors .....

27th February 2011, 03:11 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	OMG It's another Kukri..... Am I infected with the bug? No, not exactly, I just can't turn down a bargain. This came my way recently, a type I would like to learn more about. Scabbard is from a Kuk I bought which had the wrong scabbard on it, which happens to fit this one much better. Kuk has no markings, single large fuller, interesting tang that exits on back of hilt (see pics). Can anyone shed any light on the finer nuances of this particular beastie, Later 19th C?

28th February 2011, 03:44 AM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Nice Nice form, nice fullers. Gav

28th February 2011, 11:37 PM	#11
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	ang khola means one fuller near the spine, really means 'back valley' there are dui chirra (two fullers), like your other khukuri, and tin chirra (three fullers) i've not heard of any higher no. of fullers... Last edited by kronckew; 1st March 2011 at 12:17 AM.

1st March 2011, 02:01 PM	#13
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	they were examples taken from a google image search, i don't have an ang khola khukuri, tho i do suffer occasionally from exposing my own ang khola. hard to find good photos that show the fullers. the ang khola is an HI Angkhola with neem wood grip, the dui chirra is an HI 'foxy folly' model - i need one of these - and the last is a Tora Tin Chirra. (Tora and HI, Himalayan Imports, are the premier modern khukuri suppliers. Tora is UK based (run by one of our members in fact), HI is USA based. HI models tend to be more westernized & utilitarian and Tora's are more traditional and martial, tho they overlap. another player, khukuri house, tends to have a bit less quality control, and makes up for lower prices by high shipping costs) my own khukuri: (plus 1 KLO) (- khukuri-like object) top is a laminated steel kopis repro. for comparison. dui chirra officers model (Tora mk III) H.I. Kobra Tora WW1 Model Antique early 20c, nepali armoury markings Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 1st March 2011 at 02:19 PM.

2nd March 2011, 07:09 PM	#17
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Hi Gene, A nice kukri is always a joy. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

27th February 2011, 07:09 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	I'm no expert but since the curve on the spine is continous I would think 19th century.

27th February 2011, 08:37 PM	#4
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Beautiful Kukri! hmmm tempting me to venture in Kukri's...

28th February 2011, 06:18 AM	#7
Titus Pullo Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 123	Very nice piece! What origin of ethnicity is it?

28th February 2011, 09:13 AM	#8
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Thanks Gav Titus, It's from Nepal (originally). There are a lot of them in England because of our long 'association' with that part of the world.

28th February 2011, 11:41 AM	#9
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	well done G. your doing well! lovely shape & style to that piece, with a well made military style longleaf angh khola blade. Probably made late 19th or early 20th century {pre.ww1.} Id suspect this one to be Indian made, but could be mistaken. Id guess blades about 14 inches? Whats it weigh? spiral

2nd March 2011, 09:35 PM	#21
mrwizard Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dortmund, Germany Posts: 102	I'm afraid there is not much of a story. The blade is a chainpure ang khola and the horn hilt and horn scabbard with inlays indicate a Dhankute origin. It is not old. Made within the last 20 years, i think. However, it is not the typical tourist quality. Very well executed blade and balanced for speed. My guess is that it was intended as a representative/decorative piece for the nepalese middle class.

4th March 2011, 08:32 PM	#22
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Hi Gene, Info about the Kukri as requested. Made around 1900 or slightly later probably in Himal Pradech a traditional centre of Kukri manufacture lying between the Garhwalis and Jammu and Kasmir peoples. The decoration may have done by a goldsmith rather than a Kami (smith), the sun and moon mark probably represents Surya (sun) and Chandra (moon) the male and female aspects and in Bhuddist culture representing wisdom and compassion. The "palm frond" symbol is unknown. I have to thank Spiral, Andreas Volk and Runjeet Singh of Akaal Arms for the aforementioned information. My Regards, Norman.

5th March 2011, 06:14 PM	#24
carlitobrigante Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Solihull, UK Posts: 81	gorgeous kukris in this thread, and the one in the original post is lovely, nice form, bet its lovely to wield. I prefer these single fullered ones to the types of Kukri blades both to look at and to use. heres my ang khola Attached Images

5th March 2011, 07:33 PM	#25
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Is it normal to suddenly fall inlove in an item that basically have nothing to do with your main interest?! :P

5th March 2011, 11:06 PM	#27
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Even Keris Collectors ..... Attached Images